How to boost ratings and make raw better

Nowadays it seems to get ratings it takes the current big thing and reproduces it on raw. even it really has nothing to do with wrestling.

a great way to boost ratings would be title changes with 8 titles, one belt should change hands a week.

another thing would be more blood and darker themes but not the same dark themes. such as matt hardy could go gothic but not be funny. thats another thing they take some serious charecters and take the credibility away.

More stipulation matches, ladder, shaved head, etc. ON RAW! not on ppv. ppvs don't have these either. the ppv should be straight storyline match ups the raw and smackdwon should be kick butt stipulation matches.

pushing the limit by using hardcore moves. in stead of releasing these people they release, have them be in hardcore matches, if WWE doesnt care enough to keep em on then they should just let em do the dangereous stuff, then maybe there charecter will develop.

every charecter needs to be a clear cut person. garrison and cade.. i know who they are.. but what is there point? they don't need a gimmick neccesarily just.. character.

what do you guys think?

three more things

no random, matches.
every match needs to count and be good. if stipulations is the way to go than do it.

no more commercials during matches.

make good and bad not so clear cut. back in day dx were the bad boys, but we loved em. the wwe doesnt need to spoonfeed us who to like or hate anymore. some charecters like the rock just need to do whatever they would do not because they are a heel or face. now of course i don't think they should take away heels and faces completely, just don't make it stupid by making the heels be always idiots who do bad things all the time, and good guys only lose due to cheating. you see what i mean?

[ilt_undertaker]

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[MVP]

Originally Posted by glycerine Nowadays it seems to get ratings it takes the current big thing and reproduces it on raw. even it really has nothing to do with wrestling. RAW has had its highest ratings in a long time, don't change anything. a great way to boost ratings would be title changes with 8 titles, one belt should change hands a week. Many disadvantages to that. RAW has 4 titles, and if there were 4 more added then all the title belts would lose their crebility because there's so many. People would lose track of who's champion if the belts change so frequently. Plus there would be no non-title matches. another thing would be more blood and darker themes but not the same dark themes. such as matt hardy could go gothic but not be funny. thats another thing they take some serious charecters and take the credibility away. Jeff Hardy was gothic-like, look what happened to him. More stipulation matches, ladder, shaved head, etc. ON RAW! not on ppv. ppvs don't have these either. the ppv should be straight storyline match ups the raw and smackdwon should be kick butt stipulation matches. PPV events would lose their exitement if stipulation matches were used on weekly shows. Plus many of the stipulation matches would go stale if they're used frequently on TV. pushing the limit by using hardcore moves. in stead of releasing these people they release, have them be in hardcore matches, if WWE doesnt care enough to keep em on then they should just let em do the dangereous stuff, then maybe there charecter will develop. Hardcore matches would further prove that the lousy wrestlers CAN'T WRESTLE. every charecter needs to be a clear cut person. garrison and cade.. i know who they are.. but what is there point? they don't need a gimmick neccesarily just.. character. When Garrison Cade starts getting standing ovations for being himself, let me know.

[SeanMC]

Is it just me or did that Glycerine(or whatever) guy just say a whole bunch of crap/It'smore like what the wwe shouldn't do to boost ratings, thank god oyur not on the creative team, no offence btw.

[SeanMC]

Is it just me or did that Glycerine(or whatever) guy just say a whole bunch of crap? It's more like what the wwe shouldn't do to boost ratings, thank god your not on the creative team, no offence btw.

[Savio]

Originally Posted by glycerine More stipulation matches

ALSO A STABBLE FUED (oops caps)

you took every single thing i said the wrong way. i dont have time right now but.. anyway of course things won't work if used the wrong way. but Ugh.. I was saying 1 belt on SD would change hands 1 week then 1 on raw two weeks later. like once every two shows is a better thing. Jeff Hardy Left of his own desire. Hardcore moves not matches.. like Piledrivers and falling off scaffolds. so many other things. wwe is getting higher ratings right now but It still sucks.. weezer is getting the highest sales of their life but.. there new albums arent as good as the old ones. I gotta go but I'll edit and add more later

[tucsonspeed6]

Originally Posted by glycerine Nowadays it seems to get ratings it takes the current big thing and reproduces it on raw. even it really has nothing to do with wrestling. a great way to boost ratings would be title changes with 8 titles, one belt should change hands a week.

More titles would suck. It took them forever to give the Intercontinental title any credibility. Now that it has some, adding more titles will take that away. Two major titles per show is fine, and the tag titles don't interfere.

another thing would be more blood and darker themes but not the same dark themes. such as matt hardy could go gothic but not be funny. thats another thing they take some serious charecters and take the credibility away.

Hey, at least you're still thinking about credibility. Problem is, if everyone is dark and evil, all of the guys who are already dark and evil (Kane, Undertaker, etc.) will seem that much less so in comparison, removing their credibility...

More stipulation matches, ladder, shaved head, etc. ON RAW! not on ppv. ppvs don't have these either. the ppv should be straight storyline match ups the raw and smackdwon should be kick butt stipulation matches.

The problem with this idea is that by using all of the stip matches on Raw, the PPVs will seem boring. It's like if the opening match drew color, the rest of the matches would seem kinda crappy in comparison. That's why they usually save the best match for last. Stip matches desensitize the audience, so that regular matches seem crappy if the gimmick matches are done too much. I'm happy with the occasional Vegas Raw every now and then. Nothing more.

pushing the limit by using hardcore moves. in stead of releasing these people they release, have them be in hardcore matches, if WWE doesnt care enough to keep em on then they should just let em do the dangereous stuff, then maybe there charecter will develop.

Same thing as with the drawing color too early on as I said before. It desensitizes the audience and drives the company towards doing more and more crazy shit that requires less and less actual wrestling ability. Also, everyone knows that some hardcore stuff can really **** you up like chairshots and stuff. These guys usually need to get stitched up after the really bloody matches. It's just unethical to say "beat yourself into early retirement or you're fired."

every charecter needs to be a clear cut person. garrison and cade.. i know who they are.. but what is there point? they don't need a gimmick neccesarily just.. character.

Easier said than done. Ever tried to tell A-Train to be more charismatic? I bet if you did he'd tell you he was plenty charismatic as it is (which means basically that the guy can't get better than what he already is.) To make these guys individuals requires that charisma. (Rocky was just another pomous ego freak like so many others, but his charisma sent him to the top while others floundered.

[tucsonspeed6]

Originally Posted by glycerine three more things no random, matches. every match needs to count and be good. if stipulations is the way to go than do it.

These three are better, but like before, if every match was a stip match, there wouldn't be any buildup of storylines. Stip matches are designed as feud finishers most of the time, or feud amplifiers in others. If every match were a stip match, there wouldn't be any storylines.

no more commercials during matches.

By jove, now you're getting it! Why in the hell do they interupt the matches on Smackdown with commercials, then cut back two minutes later, causing you to miss two minutes of the match? The show isn't live, and we all know it isn't live. The least they could do is pause the match and begin where it left off at commercial. Totally stupid.

make good and bad not so clear cut. back in day dx were the bad boys, but we loved em. the wwe doesnt need to spoonfeed us who to like or hate anymore. some charecters like the rock just need to do whatever they would do not because they are a heel or face. now of course i don't think they should take away heels and faces completely, just don't make it stupid by making the heels be always idiots who do bad things all the time, and good guys only lose due to cheating. you see what i mean?

Problem is, only guys with tons of charisma can be tweeners. guys like A-train have to be totally heel or the crowd won't boo him at all (Hell, they barely react to him as it is...) Stonecold talked about this in his book. He said that the writers shouldn't have so much control over the promos, and in a way I agree with that. I can tell Jericho isn't coming up with his own promo material anymore. (CLB doesn't really slide off the tongue, and FDDBBTH sure as hell doesn't. The writers don't give these guys the freedom they used to.) So basically, what Williams was getting at was that if the guys do their own promos, the cream of the crop will rise to the top, and the guys without any charisma can be issued managers. Simple plan. I halfways agree with you on that one.

[HHHsucks929]

I agree that commercials during matches should be dropped. Raw got all the ratings by having quick and exciting matches, not long PPV-like matches that go through a commercial break. Good for the fans there live, bad for the ratings.

Also, Raw has almost made us forget that Eric Bischoff is STILL the Raw GM. He makes about one appearance per week and is just about nonexistent. If he can come out and be a definite face or a definite heel then it would make for great television.

A great way to get guys like Edge, Shelton Benjamin and Benoit more over is to stack the odds against them even more. Put them in something like a handicap match in which they are fired if they lose, or something like that. That was part of the reason The Rock got way over in 2000, because the odds were stacked so largely against him and he overcame every obstacle week after week.

I think we all agree that the Tag Team division on BOTH shows needs a major kick in the ass. There are plenty of guys on Raw like Garrison Cade who aren't being used and should just be made into a random team. WWE didn't help themselves by breaking up three teams in the Draft lottery. I say keep the tag straps on teams like Edge & Benoit until new teams can be developed and given some credibility. And for god's sake, good gimmicks?

One other problem in my mind is that there's entirely TOO MUCH comedy. The whole Tajiri angle, Eugene, they all combine to detract severely from the seriousness of the show. I'm not saying that Raw should be one big Lance Storm-a-thon, but there is such a thing as too much comic relief.

One mreo thing: No more one-night pushes. This happened in 1998 and 1999 as well, but it happens too often today. It's good to see guys like Shelton continuing to get big pushes, but to give guys like Spike Dudley a push for one night and leave him in the dust... There's just no point to it and it's a waste of television.

[SeanMC]

I agree on the comcmercials bit, we get them on raw to overhere. Atleast when they did it before they did after the match, but in the last year or so weve been getting them in between main events and shit, that surely degrades the credibility of the match? I didn't really agree with much else your saying, let me guess,your an ECW fan right?

[SeanMC]

OH and i agree about Tajiri, his gimmick was good as a heel and was just starting to get good at it, but the wwe for some reason moved him to the heavyweight division on raw?????? And the tag team division is seriously f-ucked, there needs to be a face stable to collide with Flair and batista when they regain there titles or something, and that could bring back the credibility of them, more tag teams like edge and christian back in the past could help also..

[sadio8]

Forget raw needing help lol. I think smackdown needs any help it can get!

[Kane Knight]

Less energy into trying to cross promote.

You're the WWE, not MTV.

Not Fox News.

Not Phizer.

Commercials are one thing, selling stuff to me on the air is another. Why do we take an hour each week every time the Rock comes out with a new movie to hype its debut? Do we really need Cena rapping for Y2Stinger, or a fucking remix of a Fozzy song? No. They divert people, and they do nothing for wrestling.

[PureHatred]

Yeah, why are you (glycerine)re-writing Raw when its been as strong lately as it has been in years.

Although I do agree that characters are more important than gimmicks. A well-thought out persona stays interesting far longer than a jokey, one-dimensional identity like 'a hillbilly,' or 'a garbage man,' or 'a superhero,' etc.

[KillerWolf]

Originally Posted by HHHsucks929 I agree that commercials during matches should be dropped. Raw got all the ratings by having quick and exciting matches, not long PPV-like matches that go through a commercial break. Good for the fans there live, bad for the ratings. Also, Raw has almost made us forget that Eric Bischoff is STILL the Raw GM. He makes about one appearance per week and is just about nonexistent. If he can come out and be a definite face or a definite heel then it would make for great television. A great way to get guys like Edge, Shelton Benjamin and Benoit more over is to stack the odds against them even more. Put them in something like a handicap match in which they are fired if they lose, or something like that. That was part of the reason The Rock got way over in 2000, because the odds were stacked so largely against him and he overcame every obstacle week after week. I think we all agree that the Tag Team division on BOTH shows needs a major kick in the ass. There are plenty of guys on Raw like Garrison Cade who aren't being used and should just be made into a random team. WWE didn't help themselves by breaking up three teams in the Draft lottery. I say keep the tag straps on teams like Edge & Benoit until new teams can be developed and given some credibility. And for god's sake, good gimmicks? One other problem in my mind is that there's entirely TOO MUCH comedy. The whole Tajiri angle, Eugene, they all combine to detract severely from the seriousness of the show. I'm not saying that Raw should be one big Lance Storm-a-thon, but there is such a thing as too much comic relief. One mreo thing: No more one-night pushes. This happened in 1998 and 1999 as well, but it happens too often today. It's good to see guys like Shelton continuing to get big pushes, but to give guys like Spike Dudley a push for one night and leave him in the dust... There's just no point to it and it's a waste of television.

i gotta disagree with you about your stance on Eric Bischoff and GMs in general. that angle has been so played out, its pathetic. you didnt get sick of the whole show revolving around Bischoff. and every single match being stacked against the face by the corrupt GM gets annoying.
what is too few and far between are singles matches that matter. what if on raw last week shawn micheals had a singles match where one man won and one man lost because one man was the better man on that night. no bullshit stipulations. evolution didnt come down and beat the hell out of both men, just for the hell of it. and no Bischoff coming down and sayin' "this match aint gonna happen. instead youre going to be involved in A BULLSHIT TAG MATCH. wouldnt that be a rare treat.

[KillerWolf]

thats shawn micheals against benoit.^

[KillerWolf]

Originally Posted by SeanMC I agree on the comcmercials bit, we get them on raw to overhere. Atleast when they did it before they did after the match, but in the last year or so weve been getting them in between main events and shit, that surely degrades the credibility of the match? I didn't really agree with much else your saying, let me guess,your an ECW fan right?

yeah, and have you noticed that when they return from the commercials, the upper hand in the match has always shifted.

[KillerWolf]

Originally Posted by Kane Knight Less energy into trying to cross promote. You're the WWE, not MTV. Not Fox News. Not Phizer. Commercials are one thing, selling stuff to me on the air is another. Why do we take an hour each week every time the Rock comes out with a new movie to hype its debut? Do we really need Cena rapping for Y2Stinger, or a fucking remix of a Fozzy song? No. They divert people, and they do nothing for wrestling.

no shit!!! cena raps for like four minutes about Y2Stinger

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by shock&awe no shit!!! cena raps for like four minutes about Y2Stinger

Yeah, it's really not necessary. We get it. The WWE likes YJstinger and Stacker 2.