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Old 10-25-2009, 02:26 AM   #121
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lol of course it was. The first three rounds were brilliant. If Machida wins round 1 and 3 and gets given 2 because it was inconclusive and HES THE CHAMP it doesnt matter if Shogun beats him half to death in the remaining two rounds if he can take it to decision.

This fight was decided in round 2. It was a close round. Keep on crying if you want to but the sport is judged on a round to round basis.
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No really Pete Cash, you're a dumb black cock sucking liar and you didnt even watch the fight.

You wanna know the funny thing about MMA fights. You can tell who actually watched them live and who didnt by there retarded responses. I dont give a fuck what you gave Machida. All i know is that if you honeslty watched the fight ( which i'd bet my future daughters virginity that you didnt ) you wouldnt be given Machinda not one round. You sir are a naysayer. You have no fucking clue what you're even speaking about and should just leave this thread now. It's so painfully obvious you havent even seen this fight that i'm embarressed to be a TPWW poster here posting with the likes of you. Go fuck yourself and eat cock. Bye. Please leave.
the tears I can literally taste them through the internet. Are you seriously crying over a close points decision loss.
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$60,000 bonus went to Struve for best submission, Berry vs. Hardonk for best fight and Berry got best KO ($120,000 in bonuses for Berry).

Anthony Johnson would have got the Best KO but was ineligable for being a fat cunt who can't keep out of McDonalds long enough to make weight.
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Did you watch the whole ppv?
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I don't think it was a complete squash but I (as well as everybody in the staples center, 95% of sherdog, and the president of the UFC) think it was definitely a one sided fight in favor of Rua. He had a masterful game plan. He almost caved Machida's legs in. A man btw, who was supposedly never supposed to even get hit. Saying this was a pretty ridiculous decision is a vast understatement.

I mean, look at the end of the fight. Machida knew that he lost. Dana was about to award the belt to Rua. lol, come on.
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All i know is that if you honeslty watched the fight ( which i'd bet my future daughters virginity that you didnt ) you wouldnt be given Machinda not one round.


Gotta disagree. I gave him the first. All Shogun from there on tho.
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Everyone knows the method for judging in MMA is a bit zany. They obviously weighted Machida stopping Shoguns takedowns quite heavily in rounds 1 and 2. Machida also quite clearly won a few exchanges in round 2 and 3 (the round I gave easiest to Machida)

Like I understand the emotion and all but Shogun certainly didn't do enough to win the fight. It went to points and the close round went to the champ. If Shogun was the defending champ he would have won round 2.
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Machida never won any exchanges. What were you watching? He wasn't even hitting most of the shots he was throwing. It was the worst striking performance of Machida's career.
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There's a replay of the show if anyone wants to watch it again for further debate. Right now they're about to start Round 2 of Velazquez/Rothwell. So the Machida/Shogun fight will be starting real soon.
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And not Michael Clarke Duncan or David Spade being they go to every show.
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I thought Machida landed some nice knees on the inside and would counter punch reasonably well to the leg kicks in the early rounds. He also stopped a few takedown attempts giving him the MYTHICAL octagon control.

Like I said blame the system. Machida being the champ won him round 2 and possibly round 1. In a championship fight two rounds that close tend to go to the champ.
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yah they're at every ufc ppv. They dont count.
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Being the champ? Get tae fuck ye dick.

This "you have to beat the champion" bullshit is just that. Fucking bullshit. You beat "the champ" by winning the round. If you score the fight 48-47 to the challenger, you don't turn around and say "oh well the champion won because he never really beat the champion".

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The feed I posted is being fast forwarded to the Machida/Shogun fight. Starting literally right now.
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They don't turn around and change it. They just tend to give closer rounds to the champ. That is human nature and happens with a lot of shit. Perception does matter in judging.

I quite clearly listed the areas in which Machida where the judges could have given Machida the first three rounds. I mean you guys are acting as if it was a slaughter. The first three rounds were close. So they could go either way

I mean you people have literally gone mental. I thought Shogun won the fight through winning round 2 BUT it was close and close tends to go the champs.
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Definitely going to watch it again to look at it round by round for more clarity, even though there is no doubt in my mind Shogun won.
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If this was a closer fight, i wouldnt be so outspoken about the decision, but the fact that Shogun dominated this fight every single round, I have to be outspoke. I have no choice. I cant sit silent after what i saw live.
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They don't turn around and change it. They just tend to give closer rounds to the champ. That is human nature and happens with a lot of shit. Perception does matter in judging.

I quite clearly listed the areas in which Machida where the judges could have given Machida the first three rounds. I mean you guys are acting as if it was a slaughter. The first three rounds were close. So they could go either way

I mean you people have literally gone mental. I thought Shogun won the fight through winning round 2 BUT it was close and close tends to go the champs.
You didnt even watch the fight. So stop.
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Again, fuck this "beating the champion" bullshit. The ways you win a fight are by KO, submission or fucking points decision. Winning a decision is just as good as a stoppage. Is the moral of the story "in order to win the title, you have to stop the champion"?
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No you are outspoken about the decision because you are an emotional faggot who suffers from a collection of personality disorders. You are well known as a complete wreck of a human so don't use your RAGE as proof either way. You are just stupid.
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Again, fuck this "beating the champion" bullshit. The ways you win a fight are by KO, submission or fucking points decision. Winning a decision is just as good as a stoppage. Is the moral of the story "in order to win the title, you have to stop the champion"?
I don't think that is necessarily true but I do think close rounds will go to the champ 9/10.
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No you are outspoken about the decision because you are an emotional faggot who suffers from a collection of personality disorders. You are well known as a complete wreck of a human so don't use your RAGE as proof either way. You are just stupid.
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Bullshit. If they did, Rampage would still be the champion for a start.
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Bullshit. If they did, Rampage would still be the champion for a start.
As I said 9/10 not every time.

They were close rounds. Shogun didn't really do a lot in them. The judges gave the points to Machida based on stopping the takedown attempts and the knees on the inside. I am honestly shocked there are people that outraged that rounds 1 and 2 could have gone to Machida. They were hella close. I thought 2 went to Shogun and 1 went to Machida personally.

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As I said 9/10 not every time.

They were close rounds. Shogun didn't really do a lot in them. The judges gave the points to Machida based on stopping the takedown attempts and the knees on the inside. I am honestly shocked there are people that outraged that rounds 1 and 2 could have gone to Machida. They were hella close. I thought 2 went to Shogun and 1 went to Machida personally.

I also love RP spinning out of control. Are you going to commit suicide over this ??
I love how you read results and all of a sudden think you're an expert when you probably have never ordered a MMA ppv in your entire life. Please go somewhere else. No one here cares'or respects your dumb retarded opinions. If i wanted opinions from someone who reads results from a website, i'd go to ESPN. Get the fuck out you dumb moronic loser. Go back to casual forum and pretend to yourself that you're so fucking funny. Bye.
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lol why would I want to play RP game. He is ranting like a lunatic. I enjoy trolling on the internet. I am not going to give him something to stop him ranting. I like his breakdowns. They amuse me.

You two need to face facts. Those first two rounds could have gone either way and they went to Machida.
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lol why would I want to play RP game. He is ranting like a lunatic. I enjoy trolling on the internet. I am not going to give him something to stop him ranting. I like his breakdowns. They amuse me.

You two need to face facts. Those first two rounds could have gone either way and they went to Machida.
As stupid as the little game was, I think they proved that you didn't actually watch the fight. Watch the replay.

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lol why would I want to play RP game. He is ranting like a lunatic. I enjoy trolling on the internet. I am not going to give him something to stop him ranting. I like his breakdowns. They amuse me.

You two need to face facts. Those first two rounds could have gone either way and they went to Machida.
FAct: You didnt watch the fights
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As stupid as the little game was, I think they proved that you didn't actually watch the fight. Watch the replay.

Props for admitting that you're a troll though.


Narc buddy I did watch the fight that is why I can so quite clearly articulate why the first 2 rounds may have gone to Machida. I can only assume the rest of you guys accidentally had a tape of Silva/Forest on loop put in or something. I never seen so much wrongness.

You people can't even admit the first two rounds were close. Including one that favoured Machida. Are you people for real
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FAct: You didnt watch the fights
FACT: you are wrong about every opinion you hold.
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You keep using logically fallacious arguments to support your claims. This might work in the company of the idiots you typically surround yourself with, but it doesn't work here. Come up with something other than "Machida CLEARLY won" and "Are you serious?" and get back to me.
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you didnt watch the fights
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How can he be factually wrong about an opinion?
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It's really pathetic to see someone try so hard to convince other people that he watched fights when its so obvious he didnt. I hope Pete Cash finds a real life .
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Rob, he was begging the question. He's trolling.
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You keep using logically fallacious arguments to support your claims. This might work in the company of the idiots you typically surround yourself with, but it doesn't work here. Come up with something other than "Machida CLEARLY won" and "Are you serious?" and get back to me.
Are you mistaking my comments to wind RP up in casual with what I posted here.

As I said Machida won the early exchanges in the first and from memory escaped a clinch attempt.

In the second he fought off a few takedown attempts and counted with a few good left hands.

The entire match was decided on those two rounds. I certainly am not shocked that Machida was given them.
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Well, your whole logic on the fight being decided in two rounds leads me to believe that you don't watch MMA on a regular basis. It's a pretty silly argument, especially since the fight was 5 rounds. I don't think the "Champion has the edge" deal you're going on about can really be supported either. I could name many fights that counter both of those argument ( Nate Quarry vs Crazy Tim Credeur and Forrest vs Rampage immediately come to mind)
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