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Old 11-23-2009, 11:22 PM   #601
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I'm glad it wasn't Swagger. He is my hope for the future and when he gets his shot at the title I hope it is NOT against Cena and against a guy like HBK or Jericho instead.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:23 PM   #603
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Spot on.

I thought his sudden move to RAW was a bit of a stretch. Now this? Since coming to RAW he has had a couple unimpressive squashes that involved nothing more than punch/kick combos (minus the powerbomb ending of course).


Can he really pull off a main event match on PPV?


I'm excited they are trying new things, which is nice. I'll give this a thumbs up for now...but the build better be hot or it will fail.
I have no question about whether he can work a good match. If you knew about Seamus, you would know he is a great worker and has been for years. It is just that he has no personality to sell the match or build interest. He has no past spoken of, no rounded signifiers of his character, he has just come out, fairly generic irish gimmick, few squash matches, few unoriginal angry powerhouse promos and as a result nobody cares about him, and as a result, the match.

And like somebody already said, if he fails, he has been built as unbeatable so he is worthless should he lose. There is only a 3 week build to this PPV. It spells doom for Seamus for at least until after Wrestlemania in my eyes.
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Nah, because even if Kofi had won, there'd be people saying that Kofi has only been pushed for the past 4 weeks or so and isn't ready to main event.
Yup. And if Orton had won, there'd be a huge froth-fest. However, if Ted DiBiase had turned face and won the rumble, people would be claiming this to be the greatest episode of RAW of all time, despite it making zero sense whatsoever. Just good old internet logic.
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That will help, but does performing in a tables match really show all that much?
Only one way to find out...
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It's something new, who cares.
This, pretty much. If Sheamus actually won somehow I think the results could only be good, tbh. A new star is created, new main event programs become possible, and maybe it will finally break the "no relying on the new guy" rule that Brock set when he left.
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Pushing Sheamus is fine. Pushing him this far this fast could blow up in their faces.
How? He's been on TV for a few months. He's hardly gonna gain X-Pac heat off the back of one PPV title match. Worst case scenario is people don't give a fuck, Sheamus lays down for Cena and he goes back to being built. Absolute disaster huh.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:26 PM   #609
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Only one way to find out...
True. I like to remain optimistic, but this is a stretch even for me.

Still, here's hoping.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:27 PM   #610
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Or they continue to push him hard with no real crowd reaction or tweaks to the gimmick and they kill off anything they may have had with him.

THAT'S what I see happening.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:28 PM   #611
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Nah, they are building him as a threat. Not many people have gone from this kind of fast push and lost and made it back to the main event. If he was a new guy trying his hand in the deeper waters, he could handshake after the match, and continue his journey.

He should have had a Goldberg-esque build.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:31 PM   #612
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so....how about that Kane/Batista fued, eh!
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so....how about that Kane/Batista fued, eh!
Woohoo!
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Well I know I'd damn sure rather see Sheamus wrestling on PPV than Kane
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But Batista is just fine...
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Kane makes Batista look like Bret Hart.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:51 PM   #618
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Is TRO in that group or is Destor spelt wrong?
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:52 PM   #619
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I just felt 'destro' was more effective. Gut feeling.
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Old 11-24-2009, 12:49 AM   #620
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I think Sheamus makes a good "filler contender". Sure, they could have waited a bit, but whatever.
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So... not as many people here are as pissed as I am that CM Punk doesn't really have anywhere to go?

He lost to Cena, cleanly... who then got beat down by Sheamus. Then Kane and Batista have a grasp on the #1 contender spot for Smackdown.

The whole ordeal just makes Punk look like he's wandering through a sea of shit. That is unless they really want to start a program with him and R-Truth (fuck).
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He'll be fine.
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Old 11-24-2009, 01:12 AM   #623
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Finally something F**ing new... I couldn't agree more with this decision... Nice for Orton & Cena to help get over the other kids... Sheamus might pull it off... Cena did 7 years ago with the US title... This is how they pushed Cena in the beginning...

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Mark my words........

Sheamus is going to fuck Cena up.
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Besides the contract signing with Cena/Sheamus at the end, what about the fucking promo that The Body cut on Vince backstage?! When Jesse said "You may be a billionaire, but you know what the budget of Minnesota was? 32 Billion dollars, thats what I was in charge of Vince, so I could come in here and run your little pip-squeak operation", I marked the fuck out, said FUCK YES! and stood up and applauded. Wrestling needs promos like that, greatness.
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Pretty much everything Ventura said tonight was gold.
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I really hope Sheamus wins at TLC. It would be something unpredictable (much like all of Raw tonight). I really want to see where the creative team is going with this.

Did anyone else hear the "Cena Sucks" chants tonight?
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It was a different feeling with RAW tonight, what a great show. New stars being made. I think we will look back on this RAW five years from now and say that this particular show was the turning point for several wrestlers. Particularly Sheamus.
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I think Sheamus has an excellent chance at winning at TLC, then dropping the belt at Royal Rumble or Elimination Chamber in February.

Since Triple H even says that he works out with Sheamus on the road, thats a huge advantage for Sheamus O'Shaughnessey.
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After watching the Divas segment, I really wish that Maryse was in porno and not wrestling. I think her talents are being under-utilized.

I mean, I'm not even asking for the hardcore shit. Just some simple softcore scenes of her on Twisty's or the like would really be a big deal for me.

(Glad to have her back on Raw though)
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If we are talking about divas that I wish was in porno....

In TNA, Velvet Sky HANDS FUCKING DOWN, no one hotter.

In WWE, Melina... gawd. Those splits and that big wide mouth.

What about Awesome Kong? I think she could find her niche in the BBW ebony porn. Picture her saying in that soft ghetto voice "Yeah thats it baby, yeah give it to momma I can't take no mo' uh dat shit."

Gosh its hot in here.
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Old 11-24-2009, 02:06 AM   #632
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I love Sheamus

anyway who else in that battle royal should have won over Sheamus, people who are bitching about it?
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Old 11-24-2009, 02:09 AM   #633
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Wow. That was an AMAZING Raw.
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Old 11-24-2009, 02:14 AM   #634
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I love Sheamus

anyway who else in that battle royal should have won over Sheamus, people who are bitching about it?
After Orton won his match I just knew it would be him or Kofi. I'm really glad they had Sheamus win it. This gives Kofi and Orton a chance to build a good damn fued and it gives a breath of fresh air the WWE Title scene.

And I hope Sheamus wins it just to fuck with people and deliver something new.
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Old 11-24-2009, 02:15 AM   #635
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But we'll probably get an "FU" through the table...

or better yet, a "Super FU" through the table.
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Sheamus clobbered the hell out of Kofi when he eliminated him in the battle royal tonight.

Also funny to hear Jesse Ventura crack on Sheamus' skin saying that his skin never saw the sun before, hilarious shit.
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Jesse "The Body" Ventura has been the greatest RAW guest host yet, by a mile.
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clearly someone didn't see ZZ Top
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Good Raw. I think there is a good chance Jerishow/DX will main event the next PPV, instead of either title match. Especially since it's TLC.
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Ha! Were they even on the show? Or was it all pre-taped segments?

That Santino bit was one of the best. All he really wants is for women to be in their place and cook him Thanksgiving Dinner. What's wrong with that?
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