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Old 05-25-2010, 12:33 PM   #1681
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I'm beginning to think I want to build up my Lost merchandise a bit more. I really want some deviantart style pictures on canvas on my wall
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Old 05-25-2010, 12:35 PM   #1682
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I have a few things I got as gifts from my brother (who I converted to a fan) this past christmas.
I have a Ben Linus bobblehead, a mini poster, and a framed Oceanic Flight 815 Boarding Pass for James "Sawyer" Ford.
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Old 05-25-2010, 12:42 PM   #1683
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You can get them for any character who was on 815, I think.
I kinda wish it was Jack or Locke now, but it's still awesome regardless. Sawyer's one of my favorite characters too.
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I've got a bunch of the action figures, a DHARMA mug (one of which I was happy to see Rose drinking out of in the finale), couple of posters, the board game, the Via Domus video game, the DVDs, the Bad Twin book and my favourite of all...
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Old 05-25-2010, 12:44 PM   #1685
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I want to play the video game. I never have. I've heard it's not a great game by conventional standards, but fun if you're a lost fan.
I'm gonna try to pick it up soon.
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Old 05-25-2010, 12:48 PM   #1686
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Where the hell is Jon Kano? I hope it's that The Island isn't done with him, rather than him being done with The Island.
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Old 05-25-2010, 12:49 PM   #1687
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Yeah, pretty easy too. Some of the fake voiceover's are good, some of them are ass terrible.
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Old 05-25-2010, 01:01 PM   #1688
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Now that Lost is over, I think there may be oppurtunity there to produce something like a Lost video game that has more official involvement, and higher quality.
Not much of the Lost cast is out of the realm of possibility of doing videogame voice work.

I don't know what they'd do though. Hopefully not a continuation of any kind, but an inner-quel, if that's even a term.
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Old 05-25-2010, 02:06 PM   #1689
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In the afterlife the island is a distant memory, and I guess that's why it's dead and not a factor. That's just a way of showing it.

The Bomb didn't have anything to do with anything in the afterlife though. The Bomb either never went off, or was neutralized by the electromagnetic pocket.
Whatever happened there was The Incident, and the Dharma initiative just sealed the area off and finished the hatch, and remembered it all as a bunch of crazy bastards causing mayhem.
Jack and Co. magically travelled back to 2007 right after. I don't know if The Incident caused that, or just The Island's will. Probably both.
Also, Richard says he "watched them die" regarding Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Sayid, Jin, Juliet, Hurley and Miles in 1977.
He was definitely referring to The Incident. Him and Eloise Hawking helped them find the bomb to use, but then split up from them because Eloise was pregnant.
She is the one who insisted on going with them, but Richard knocked her out to protect her. He said he was going to bring her out of that cave through the main entrance, instead of going through Dharmaville with them.
It's highly likely that when she woke up, she wanted to go see what was going on and her and Richard went to watch The Incident from a safe place.

Richard obviously thought this meant they were dead, since they were gone afterwards.
When they came along in 2004, he knew that was the versions of them that would go to 1977, but thought they would die there since that's what he saw, and didn't know they would be coming back to 2007 soon after.

Pretty awesome stuff. Time travel is great, but tough to pull off. I think they did a damn good job in Season 5.
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About the bomb - If Jacob protected them from killing themselves, perhaps that could be what happened with the bomb? SOMETHING happened to protect them.
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Old 05-25-2010, 02:36 PM   #1691
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It's interesting to ponder where Mother's lineage started. Was she the first protector? Or were there protectors before her?
This is likely where the traces of human presence in The Heart of The Island come from. Same lineage. Probably extremely ancient, like Neolithic/Stonehenge era stuff. They probably put those things there the same time the "divine" order of The Island that Mother and Jacob carry on started.

The skeletons are probably people that tried to get in, or people who died when that whole deal started.

At some point a protector and that lineage had to originate. Since they have had godly powers, it's better not shown, but it has to be some kind of religious type thing. Like some physical representation of The Island, as if it were god or something. At some point it had to communicate and bestow power. Pretty much like Biblical stuff, just it's own theology. That's really why it's all better left to the imagination. There's no way to effectively touch on that material, other than just chalking The Island up as God-like, and Mother/Jacob's lineage as saint like, or whatever. Glad it's open, but still interesting.
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Old 05-25-2010, 02:42 PM   #1692
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Cool writeup from someone who worked on the show...

http://lostmediamentions.blogspot.co...on-finale.html
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Old 05-25-2010, 02:45 PM   #1693
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It's probably 2001ish where the first person to come across the island felt a "calling" towards the light and when he went down there he became Jacob 0. Maybe that was Mother. Maybe that was Mother's mother.
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Old 05-25-2010, 02:51 PM   #1694
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Yea but there's also what seems to be pretty primative manmade architecture down there. Maybe the first people there felt that calling, and some of them died constructing some things around the light.
The light definitely had to be there originally. Maybe they just built around it and put a cork in the ground to fix a problem.

Or maybe it was just there miraculously. I don't think it's advanced enough that someone had to build it, but the cork just looks rounded off and carved.
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Old 05-25-2010, 03:34 PM   #1695
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I cant get over how powerful the last 10-20 mins of the show were... wow
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I will admit I was surprised when he 'got the call', but my remark was more to do at the time of such danger and epicness, that it was only Jack who was the real choice at the time.
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Old 05-25-2010, 04:39 PM   #1697
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Like I said, I think The Island and its light were around long before Mother and long after Hurley.

The show is just looking at a specific point in Island history, and reveals to us only the points that were relevant to the story of the main characters.
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I wonder when and why Hurley and Linus stopped running the island and died.
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Old 05-25-2010, 05:32 PM   #1699
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I'm writing my final thoughts on the episode and series as a whole, its not done yet and I'm tired.

Why the fuck did someone make a fucking separate thread for the finale? I know there is nothing really wrong with it but this whole thread was for and about LOST, kinda wanted it to end with it and it all be in one together, oh well.

Will post my thoughts tomorrow.
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The finale is a pretty big event. I don't think it's so crazy for it to have it's own thread.
I've been planning on merging it with this one soon anyways. I was just giving it a day or two.
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OK cool I think it's a good idea since I wanted to request this thread for archiving. It's a good example of what fandom and community can accomplish here.

But yeah, in short before I finish my review - I was blown away, cried three times, a bit miffed with the final scene and meaning but overall loved and thought it was a fucking great finale.
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I wonder when and why Hurley and Linus stopped running the island and died.
Im going to assume Hurley didnt make Ben ageless like Richard so he probably died of old age. Hurley probably eventually just felt like it was time to stepdown.

They werent paired alot during the series, but throughout the run of Lost Ben and Hurley did have some nice moments together.
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Their scene together in the afterlife rules out any attempts by Ben to overthrow him, or kill him. Which is nice considering that's something the old Ben would have probably tried to do (and did do to Jacob).
They look back on their tenure with warm feelilngs it seems, at least of eachother. In a way, serving The Island and Hurley that way was probably healing for Linus, who had a checkered past and did some horrible things.
It's perfect that he stayed and did good for The Island, since it was all he had.
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i like how ben stayed back presumably to be with alex
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He stayed back to "work some things out." That could include being with Alex and Rosseau, but it generally means that even though he was welcome inside the church (heaven), he decided to think about what he'd done in life and wait outside the gates for a while.
That ending for Ben is perfect to me, since he clearly did some evil things, but ultimately wasn't an evil person. He did some redeeming things towards the end of the series, and presumably gave a life of pure service to Hurley and The Island afterwards.
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Im not sure there are any characters or character arcs in this story I was disappointed in.
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In the afterlife timeline, most of the characters appeared to be better people than they were in life.
Kate was an innocent fugitive, Linus was a teacher, Sawyer was a cop, etc.
I think this was to show who they were. They were essentially still the same, but without the negative things of the world that shaped them into the complicated, morally ambiguous characters that they were in life. It was almost like showing who they were in their hearts without being "lost."
This goes for everyone. The events of their purgatory/alt universe lives represented a world where things were better for them, but was essentially working out the problems of their other life.
That's why I think Sun and Jin were unmarried (all their early marriage problems), and Jack had a son (father issues), and Locke was in a wheelchair learning to let go of punishing himself for what he did to his father (rather than be punished in a wheelchair for what his father did to him).
Even Desmond was spending some time, with Widmore as a father figure, before he was enlightened.
Faraday was a musician, which was what he wanted to be before his mother forced him into physics.
The list goes on really.

Very cleverly crafted.
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Old 05-25-2010, 06:32 PM   #1708
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I know some people didnt like the Sayid-Shannon connection, but to me Nadia represented too much of who Sayid was and what he had done in his past. Shannon was his clean slate, his new beginning.

In his FS, even though he loved Nadia, he wasnt with her because he knew he shouldnt be.
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I agree with that. I think Nadia was something he was chasing within himself. He'd known her his entire life, since they were children. I think that's what he was chasing. His innocence before he entered a life of being a killer and hating himself for it.
I think in the alternate universe he learned to let go of Nadia. Even there, it wasn't meant to be.

I think it was written that way for a reason. It's not like they couldn't have put him with Nadia. Desmond was with Penny, and Penny wasn't part of the crew really.
Boone was there alone, so it's not like Shannon needed to be with Sayid to be there. Just because they had a romantic past didn't mean she had to be with him, because other characters had meaningless flings.
I think it was to prove Shannon and Sayid had love, but Sayid and Nadia was a part of Sayid's character that he needed to let go.
He also joined MIB under the prospect of seeing Nadia, and ultimately couldn't bring himself to kill Desmond, and broke that pact. Getting over Nadia was a big part of his character this season.
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I agree with that. I think Nadia was something he was chasing within himself. He'd known her his entire life, since they were children. I think that's what he was chasing. His innocence before he entered a life of being a killer and hating himself for it.
I think in the alternate universe he learned to let go of Nadia. Even there, it wasn't meant to be.

I think it was written that way for a reason. It's not like they couldn't have put him with Nadia. Desmond was with Penny, and Penny wasn't part of the crew really.
Boone was there alone, so it's not like Shannon needed to be with Sayid to be there. Just because they had a romantic past didn't mean she had to be with him, because other characters had meaningless flings.
I think it was to prove Shannon and Sayid had love, but Sayid and Nadia was a part of Sayid's character that he needed to let go.
He also joined MIB under the prospect of seeing Nadia, and ultimately couldn't bring himself to kill Desmond, and broke that pact. Getting over Nadia was a big part of his character this season.
Well put. It wasnt just a random lets put these two together as many are trying to make it out to be. I think there was some definite thought to his FS and really everybody's FS.
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I'd rather spend eternity with Shannon too
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I'm going to merge this thread with the main Lost thread later tonight, just to keep things together.
Nothing should change, other than this stuff just being tacked onto the end of the other thread in chronological order.

Just figured I'd put the word out ahead of time so nobody is wondering where the thread went.
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Although she was a roaring bitch in the first season. Kinda turned me on though
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I've been on vacation, so I just had a chance to read this thread. I loved the finale. I thought the ending was phenomenal. My heart was literally racing through that whole scene with Christian and Jack. It was incredible. It was everything I could of hoped for with an ending to this show. I shed tears a couple times during the 2 and a half hours.

Also, whomever had Vincent lay down next to Jack as he was dying should be given an Academy Award (or whatever the TV one is) just for getting that in. I love dogs, so watching that scene was pretty emotional for me.

I will admit the ending confused me. Reading the posts in here clarified a lot for me. At first I thought everyone died when the plane crashed and the whole series was just the island giving everyone a 2nd chance to correct some things or to finish unfinished business. The reason I thought this was because they showed the plane crash during the credits, but without any human soul there. So I was like, "wtf, did everyone die right there?"

So was the afterlife just Jack's afterlife? I really have to watch the episode over. Jimmy Kimmel showed that scene in the first episode of the season when Rose told Jack "It's ok to let go now." And he said that's where Jack passed on. Makes sense I guess

Anyway, looking back, I don't think there will ever another show that will capture my heart quite like this one. It just had so much depth to it and really made you think. From the character stories to the mysteries of the island to the action and adventure. It was a hell of a journey

I knew this show was going to be something special six or seven years ago when I watched the pilot and it has lived up to all my expectations.
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Ugh so many disgustingly great little moments in the ep.

-Ben's perfectly Ben-ish sound when Sawyer elbowed him in the face and took his gun
-Locke and Jack staring down the waterfall as a callback to the hatch
-Sawyer's line "That's a helluva long con, doc".
-"Bass player. Wake me up for show"
-"Thank you" "It's just a blanket."
-"I'm fine. Find me some thread and I can count to 5"
-The smile on Jin's face upon meeting Detective Ford, LAPD, followed by his sly "Hello....Detective"
-Sawyer's slight nod to Jack on their final island goodbye
-Jack's lack of an answer to Kate's "Tell me I'm going to see you again"
-"I'll see you in another life, brother"
-Locke's inflection on the line "Well if it helps, I forgive you". Just absolutely perfect.
-The joy in Ben's voice upon greeting Hurley outside the church
-Jack waking up the same place MIB did after being expelled from the cave
-The multiple faiths featured in the stained glass church window
-"Then how are you here right now?" Deep sigh "How are YOU here right now?"
-The meeting of Boone and Jack in the church
-The shot of Jack's shoe, still hanging where it was in the pilot

Incredible. Wanna go back and watch the whole series again.
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