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Old 05-09-2004, 01:04 PM   #1681
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Old 05-09-2004, 01:13 PM   #1682
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LOL,nice work Van Der Sar.

It's all falling apart for the toon army.
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I missed the goal but van der Sar spilled EVERYTHING against Pompey last week. It was his fault we scored. He couldn't seem to keep hold of anything. Looks like a nice bloke though.
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Basically he missed controlled a back pass and then tried to take it round Reyes but was tackled and Reyes scored.
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Haha, Alan Shearer you fool.

How similar were his and RvN's misses this weekend? Very if you ask me, and both matches finished 1-1 too.
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Old 05-09-2004, 01:33 PM   #1686
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Yeah Shearer is a shit striker too.
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Hopes are up for Villa in the Uefa Cup again now. I'm gonna feel so bad if we don't make it I mean first day of the season 6th sounded fucking amazing but now all I can think about is us in Europe. C'mon Southampton turn over Newcastle
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First day of the season when Patrik Berger nutmegged Thomas Sorenson and I nearly had a heart attack when Gareth Barry got a dodgy penalty.

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Yeah Shearer is a shit striker too.
No, he is Englands best

As he has shown, he can belt a ball from outside the area, as well as score the easy ones, and he is good at headers, I would rather have Shearer then RvN. Which reminds me, how did RvN get into the Premiership team of the seaosn when Shearer is better then him.
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Because you are about as tactically aware as you soon to be ex gaffer
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Dado Prso has signed for Rangers on a 3 year deal. He was being linked to Pompey and Fulham.
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Monaco to Rangers is a hell of a step down
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Oh yeah,i take it on Wolves' goal today that Cort was behind the line when the shot came in?

Otherwise that should not have counted.
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Monaco to Rangers is a hell of a step down
Rangers are a ten times bigger club than Monaco will ever be so how is that a step down? League standards are even that different. Celtic might dominate Scotland but I'd rather watch paint dry than watch another French league game.
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Monaco are in the Champions League final. It is a step down to go to a club that probably won't even qualify for the group stages,

Rangers might have a big reputation, but they are a woeful side right now.
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Yeah we are shit.

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PS Monaco own Rangers.
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Yeah seriosuly, if Chelsea had Rangers in the semi final, we would have shat all over them.

If Real Madrid had Rangers in the quarter finals, they would have shat all over them.

Rangers did rubbish in their league, and I can only assume that Prso is getting a much fatter pocket.
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So Rangers bring in far more money than Monaco do year after year and play in front of 50,000 people every week and they aren't bigger than Monaco? Next thing you'll be telling me is Porto are bigger than Man United because they knocked us out of Europe.

Nobody said Monaco aren't a better team. Read the words carefully.
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I don't know. I think you're basing this more on the UK than europe. I doubt Any scottish teams are considered huge.
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But IMO if Rangers were a big club, they would at least do half decent in Europe occasionally. Read my words carefully, I never said that Moncao are better then Real Madrid, I just said that Rangers aren't as good as Monaco, and therefor I can't see why he would go there, unless the goolash is much more. Rangers do fuck all each year, I wouldn't even consider Celtic to be a big club, and they overshadow Rangers. Like ECG says, you have a good reputation. but the Scottish league is a joke anyway.
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Also, I think Prso is foolish going to Rangers, he could have signed for a really big, in a much more comeptitive league, but hey, I guess money talks
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Apparently the Thai PM is gonna invest in Liverpool

That has got to be even more dodgy than Abramovich
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That has got to be even more dodgy than Abramovich
I read about Colonel Gadaaffi's(sp?) son wanting to buy Liverpool.

He's the guy who 'plays' for Perugia.
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Play = buy his way into the team and fail a drugs test.

If I remember correctly.
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I don't know. I think you're basing this more on the UK than europe. I doubt Any scottish teams are considered huge.
What he said.

France is generally considered to be the fifth biggest league in Europe I would say behind Spain, Italy, England and Germany.

Scotland in comparison is pretty weak.
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True. Plus France won the second to last World Cup, remind me where Scotland have come in thelast two world cups
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So Rangers bring in far more money than Monaco do year after year and play in front of 50,000 people every week and they aren't bigger than Monaco? Next thing you'll be telling me is Porto are bigger than Man United because they knocked us out of Europe.

Nobody said Monaco aren't a better team. Read the words carefully.
Rangers are in atrocious amounts of debt. In terms of worldwide fan base, also, they are dwarfed by Celtic (most clubs are, Manchester United and Liverpool are about the only ones who aren't).

The only reason I can think of why Prso and Boumsong would go to Rangers, would be to line their pockets, because Rangers are well known for paying stupid money for players. That is why their finances are such a joke, and why Celtic are managing their debts.

I would consider both Celtic and Rangers "big" clubs simply due to the crowds they draw and their reputations. Celtic would be Champions League contenders if they played in a stronger, more marketable league.
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Rangers are in atrocious amounts of debt. In terms of worldwide fan base, also, they are dwarfed by Celtic (most clubs are, Manchester United and Liverpool are about the only ones who aren't).

The only reason I can think of why Prso and Boumsong would go to Rangers, would be to line their pockets, because Rangers are well known for paying stupid money for players. That is why their finances are such a joke, and why Celtic are managing their debts.

I would consider both Celtic and Rangers "big" clubs simply due to the crowds they draw and their reputations. Celtic would be Champions League contenders if they played in a stronger, more marketable league.
Rangers are in less debt than Barcelona, Real Madrid and practically every big team in Italy. Aren't Manchester United the only club in Europe who aren't in debt actually?

I love the comment about "lining their pockets" though. Just shows how little every who is saying it knows. Rangers, unlike the Real's of the world, are trying to manage that debt now and ain't paying out big wages any more.

Rangers and Celtic would walk into the top 10 biggest clubs in the world list. Anyone thinking different are kidding themselves.
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Rangers are in less debt than Barcelona, Real Madrid and practically every big team in Italy. Aren't Manchester United the only club in Europe who aren't in debt actually?

I love the comment about "lining their pockets" though. Just shows how little every who is saying it knows. Rangers, unlike the Real's of the world, are trying to manage that debt now and ain't paying out big wages any more.

Rangers and Celtic would walk into the top 10 biggest clubs in the world list. Anyone thinking different are kidding themselves.
Real Madrid and Barcelona are on a different stratosphere. They would not be allowed to go bust, they are special cases. Barca can call upon 100,000 season ticket holders. That is absolutely unparalleled. Real Madrid are bailed out by the Madrid council and banks any time they look like being in trouble.

If Rangers were forced to be run like a legitimate business, they would not be signing anyone, such is their financial state. I don't think Manchester United are the only club not in debt, either. Bayern Munich are a rich team, for a start. The top European sides draw in huge merchandising revenue, gate receipts and TV money domestically and in Europe.

I don't know about that the biggest clubs thing. It's debatable. I think Celtic could make the top 10, simply because they are a European Cup winning side, with a huge international fanbase. Rangers have a huge support for a British team, but nothig special in terms of worldwide. They haven't won a significant European trophy, either.
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I don't know. I think you're basing this more on the UK than europe. I doubt Any scottish teams are considered huge.
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What he said.

France is generally considered to be the fifth biggest league in Europe I would say behind Spain, Italy, England and Germany.

Scotland in comparison is pretty weak.
What does the league standard have to do with the club being big or not?

I wouldn't say their league is any better than the Scottish league really. Aside from Monaco this season, French teams have performed no better than Scottish teams in Europe over the last few seasons. Even a lesser Scottish team like Hearts and Bourdeux looked just as good each each other when they played head to head. I have been to about 12 countries around the world including 4 continents and I've seen more people wearing Rangers and Celtic shirts than any French team. Any team other than Man U and Liverpool actually (I'm sure Real Madrid would be there now since Beckham's transfer but they weren't then).

From what I have seen of the MLS, that looks more exciting that both the French and Scottish leagues. No team in it is close to their standards though.
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Old 05-10-2004, 07:54 PM   #1716
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I don't know about that the biggest clubs thing. It's debatable. I think Celtic could make the top 10, simply because they are a European Cup winning side, with a huge international fanbase. Rangers have a huge support for a British team, but nothig special in terms of worldwide. They haven't won a significant European trophy, either.
Actually they have.
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Actually they have.
They won the Fairs Cup a long time ago, that's about it.

Rangers blew it, really. They had the potential in the early 90s to go places, they spent big money on some bad players (£12 million on Tore Andre Flo, for example), and never lived up to their potential in the Champions League, despite qualifying for it for years on end.

I think estimates put their debt at around £70 million, with several measures underway to cut costs. I think they have set up a few dodgy operations to try and spread the debt too.
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Ha, Flo used to be the man, he scored some really important goals for Chelsea. But couldn't cut the mustard in Sctoland. And then was whack when he went to Sunderland. If you ask me, it sums up how rubbish the Scottish league is when Chris Sutton scores three goals for Chelsea in a season, one of which being against Hull, and another in the qualifying for the Champions League, he was a real joke, and was rubbish in his last couple of seasons in Blackburn. Look at how well he got on in Scotland, what a joke.
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Dennis Bergkamp only scored 3 goals in his last 2 years in Italy. Does it mean the Premiership is shit?

Again, I'm not defending the quality of the Scottish league so why harp on about it?
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They won the Fairs Cup a long time ago, that's about it.

Rangers blew it, really. They had the potential in the early 90s to go places, they spent big money on some bad players (£12 million on Tore Andre Flo, for example), and never lived up to their potential in the Champions League, despite qualifying for it for years on end.

I think estimates put their debt at around £70 million, with several measures underway to cut costs. I think they have set up a few dodgy operations to try and spread the debt too.
Actually it was the Cup Winners Cup and it was more recent than Celtic's last European Cup win.

To be fair, a lot of their debt comes from their new training facilities Murray Park and it's regarded as being one of, if not the best in Europe.

When you sell out as many games as they do and have the financial pull the club does, they will clear the debt sooner rather than later.
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