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Old 01-02-2011, 07:12 PM   #1
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Soo... is the X Division officially gone yet?
I'm looking over the Genisis card and was wondering is the X Division done? Looking at the belt reciently you've got Robbie E and Kaz as the only real challangers. EY is in the tag division, I cant remember the last Brian Kendrick match, I'm not sure what there planning with the Pope and it would make sense for Amazing Red to form a tag team with his "little brother" (then again its TNA) Do you think that it's the final days of the X Division in TNA?


Side note, I actually looked up Little Red and he's decient in the ring. He actually is younger than Amazing Red go figure



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Old 01-02-2011, 07:18 PM   #2
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Old 01-02-2011, 07:22 PM   #3
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Old 01-02-2011, 07:31 PM   #4
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Wouldn't there have some sort of announcement if it were gone?
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Old 01-02-2011, 07:31 PM   #5
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Side note, I actually looked up Little Red and he's decient in the ring. He actually is younger than Amazing Red go figure
Not really his brother.
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Not really his brother.
I know, I just thought it was funny because Amazing Red is older than they guy who plays his little brother Tommy Mercer (even though he's almost twice his size)
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Old 01-02-2011, 08:21 PM   #7
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I think they should just rename it or something because "X Division" sounds fucking stupid and always has. They renamed the Legends/International/Television Championship 3 times in 3 months.
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I dont even really know who holds a Belt in TNA now or which belt AJ has.

Jeff is the TNA Champ
Robbie E is X division champ
Dunno who the tag champs are.
I think AJ has a belt.

But the only thing I see on TV is Matt Morgan, Jeff, Bishoff, JJ MMA, and boring shit I dont care about.
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Old 01-02-2011, 10:26 PM   #9
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What about their TV title? I thought AJ had it? Is it regularly defended on free tv like it is supposed to?
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I dont watch too regularly but I havent seen him have a match in awhile.
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Old 01-02-2011, 10:57 PM   #11
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Doug Williams is the current TV Champ.

Jay Lethal is the X Champ and will face Kazarian at the next PPV.
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Old 01-02-2011, 11:06 PM   #12
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When did the latter happen? I recall the former now.
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Old 01-02-2011, 11:07 PM   #13
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Errrrrrrr. Few weeks back?
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December 7th to be exact. Although it aired on the 16th.
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TNA still has the X-Division?
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December 7th to be exact. Although it aired on the 16th.
Aha. I was out of town since Dec 6 and just recently got back. Thanks
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I think people overvalue the glorified Cruiserweight Championship. The fast-paced stuff will draw in some viewers and differentiate them from WWE but it is still just a glorified Cruiserweight Championship that had a few "elite" wrestlers fight over it. Did the Daniels/Joe/AJ match main event that ppv because of the X-Division Title or because they made the belt mean more because they were that good.
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Old 01-03-2011, 12:32 AM   #18
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TNA X-Division Title History



Champion Date Location Event
A.J. Styles June 26, 2002 Huntsville, AL TNA PPV
Notes: A.J. Styles defeated Psicosis and Jerry Lynn and Low Ki to become the first ever NWA TNA X-Division champion..
Low Ki August 7, 2002 Nashville, TN TNA PPV
Jerry Lynn August 28, 2002 Nashville, TN TNA PPV
Syxx Pac October 9, 2002 Nashville, TN TNA PPV
AJ Styles (2) October 23, 2002 Nashville, TN TNA PPV
Jerry Lynn (2) November 6, 2002 Nashville, TN TNA PPV
Sonny Siaki December 11, 2002 Nashville, TN TNA PPV
Kid Kash February 12, 2003 Nashville, TN TNA PPV
Amazing Red April 30, 2003 Nashville, TN TNA PPV
Chris Sabin May 14, 2003 Nashville, TN TNA PPV
Notes: Chris Sabin unified the TNA X-Division title with the WWA (World Wrestling All-Stars) Cruiserweight title in Australia..
Michael Shane August 20, 2003 Nashville, TN TNA PPV
Notes: Michael Shane defeated Chris Sabin (c) and Frankie Kazarian in an Ultimate X Match..
Chris Sabin (2) January 7, 2004 Nashville, TN TNA PPV
Notes: Chris Sabin defeated Michael Shane (c), Christopher Daniels, and Low-Ki in an Ultimate X Match..
Notes: Chris Sabin was stripped of the title due to injury..
Frankie Kazarian March 31, 2004 Nashville, TN TNA PPV
Notes: Frankie Kazarian defeated the Amazing Red to win the vacant TNA X-Division title..
AJ Styles (3) June 9, 2004 Nashville, TN TNA PPV
Kazarian (2) & Shane (2) July 28, 2004 Nashville, TN TNA PPV
Notes: Frankie Kazarian and Michael Shane were declared Co-Winners of an Ultimate X Match which also included A.J. Styles..
Petey Williams August 11, 2004 Nashville, TN TNA PPV
Notes: Petey Williams won an X-Division Gauntlet Match..
AJ Styles (4) January 16, 2005 Orlando, FL Final Resolution
Notes: A.J. Styles defeated Petey Williams (c) and Chris Sabin in an Ultimate X Match..
Christopher Daniels March 13, 2005 Orlando, FL Destination X
Notes: Christopher Daniels defeated A.J. Styles (c), Elix Skipper, and Ron Killings in an Ultimate X Match..
AJ Styles (5) September 11, 2005 Orlando, FL Unbreakable
Notes: A.J. Styles defeated Christopher Daniels (c) and Samoa Joe in a triple threat match..
Samoa Joe December 11, 2005 Orlando, FL Turning Point
Christopher Daniels (2) March 12, 2006 Orlando, FL Destination X
Notes: Christopher Daniels defeated Samoa Joe (c) and A.J. Styles in an Ultimate X Match..
Samoa Joe (2) April 13, 2006 Orlando, FL iMPACT
Senshi (2) June 22, 2006 Orlando, FL iMPACT
Notes: Senshi defeated Samoa Joe (c) and Sonjay Dutt (pinned) in a triple threat match..
Chris Sabin (3) October 22, 2006 Detroit, MI Bound For Glory
AJ Styles (6) November 2, 2006 Orlando, FL iMPACT
Christopher Daniels (3) November 16, 2006 Orlando, FL iMPACT
Notes: Christopher Daniels defeated A.J. Styles (c) and Chris Sabin in a triple threat match..
Chris Sabin (4) January 14, 2007 Orlando, FL Final Resolution
Notes: Chris Sabin defeated Christopher Daniels (c) and Jerry Lynn in a triple threat match..
Jay Lethal June 17, 2007 Nashville, FL Slammiversary
Samoa Joe (3) June 21, 2007 Orlando, FL iMPACT
Notes: Samoa Joe defeated Jay Lethal (c) and Chris Sabin in a triple threat match..
Kurt Angle August 12, 2007 Orlando, FL Hard Justice
Notes: Kurt Angle defeated Samoa Joe in a Winner Take All Match..
Jay Lethal (2) September 9, 2007 Orlando, FL No Surrender
Notes: Jay Lethal defeated Kurt Angle in the upset of the year..
Johnny Devine January 24, 2008 Orlando, FL iMPACT
Notes: Johnny Devine defeated Jay Lethal in a Hardcore Street Fight..
Jay Lethal (3) February 10, 2008 Greenville, SS Against All Odds
Petey Williams (2) April 17, 2008 Orlando, FL iMPACT
Sheik Abdul Bashir September 14, 2008 Toronto, ONT No Surrender
Notes: Sheik Abdul Bashir defeated Petey Williams (c) and Consequences Creed in a triple threat match..
Eric Young November 13, 2008 Orlando, FL iMPACT
Notes: The decision was reversed due to a controversial decision involving referee Shane Sewell. The championship was returned to the Sheik..
Eric Young December 7, 2008 Orlando, FL Final Resolution
Notes: Referee Shane Sewell once again factored into the finish, so Eric Young was stripped again. However, this time the X-Division title was held up and a tournament was arranged to crown a new champion..
Alex Shelley January 11, 2009 Charlotte, NC Genesis
Notes: Alex Shelley defeated his Motor City Machine Guns partner Chris Sabin in the finals of a tournament..
SUICIDE March 15, 2009 Orlando, FL Destination X
Notes: SUICIDE defeated Alex Shelley (c) and Chris Sabin and Jay Lethal and Consequences Creed in an Ultimate X match to win the TNA X-Division title.
Homicide July 16, 2009 Orlando, FL TNA iMPACT
Notes: Homicide cashed in his Feast or Fired title shot and pinned SUICIDE, who had already wrestled a match and gotten beaten up by Alex Shelley & Chris Sabin.
Samoa Joe (4) August 16, 2009 Orlando, FL Hard Justice
Amazing Red (2) October 8, 2009 Orlando, FL TNA iMPACT
Douglas Williams January 28, 2010 Orlando, FL TNA iMPACT
Notes: Doug Williams cashed in the Feast or Fired briefcase (title shot), owned by partner Big Rob Terry, and defeated Amazing Red for the TNA X-Division title! .
Notes: Doug Williams was stripped due to being grounded in the UK after the volcano eruptions in Iceland that took out all air travel throughout Europe.
Frankie Kazarian (3) April 18, 2010 St. Louis, MO TNA Lockdown
Notes: Frankie Kazarian defeated Shannon Moore and Homicide in a 3-WAY Steel Cage match to win the vacant TNA X-Division title!
Douglas Williams (2) May 17, 2010 Orlando, FL TNA Sacrifice
Jay Lethal (4) September 16, 2010 Orlando, FL TNA iMPACT
Amazing Red (3) September 23, 2010 New York City, NY Live Event
Jay Lethal (5) September 25, 2010 Rahway, NJ Live Event
Robbie E w/Cookie November 7, 2010 Orlando, FL Turning Point
Jay Lethal (6) December 16, 2010 Orlando, FL TNA iMPACT

Other than Samoa Joe and Kurt Angle, its a glorified Cruiserweight Championship.
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Old 01-03-2011, 02:42 AM   #19
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I dont even really know who holds a Belt in TNA now or which belt AJ has.

Jeff is the TNA Champ
Robbie E is X division champ
Dunno who the tag champs are.
I think AJ has a belt.

But the only thing I see on TV is Matt Morgan, Jeff, Bishoff, JJ MMA, and boring shit I dont care about.
This. They don't really focus on title chases, which seems like it should be the entire point. Who's the Knockout's champion? I dunno... let's have Sarita go monkey shit and try to kill people and make Angelina Love think she's hallucinating a real person who has a profile up on the TNA page, yet no one else working there can see her.

Aren't the tag champs MCMG? Meh, fuck 'em, have them wrestle GenMe again, then not be heard from for another 3 months in matches or promos in spite of being still wayyyy more over than they should be from consistent lack of exposure.

Doug Williams is the what champ? Which belt does Lethal have? I'm confused as to exactly which one is the second tier title, as they're both third wheel programs- and as entertaining as it may be (and by TNA logic, is one of the most "going somewhere" angles in recent history) why is Double J Double M A getting more screen time than title holders?

Hell, even the WORLD TITLE picture is more about a FUCKING CONCUSSION ANGLE around two contenders than being about dethroning the champ himself (although, that part may be out of neccessity from Jeff's legal issues, but still, you should see where I was going with that.)

Why should we take any champions they have seriously when TNA doesn't even appear to? And leading back to the original question, why even have a "division" when it doesn't appear to have enough people interested in pursuing the belt? It's like This makes that McDonald's belt look like a more credible championship than the X-Division strap!
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Old 01-03-2011, 05:23 AM   #20
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The X Division was awesome when they had Styles/Joe/Daniels fueding over it. Don't follow TNA religiously or anything, so haven't really kept up with the X-Div since then.

However, I hope they don't get rid of it, as it feels like a 'staple' in the TNA title scene. If anything they should get rid of the Legends Title, if they haven't already. Always thought that was a retarded title.
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Old 01-03-2011, 09:43 AM   #21
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Get rid of the X division, rename the Knockouts division the XXX division and make them all wrestle naked.
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Old 01-03-2011, 11:02 AM   #22
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The X-Division has always been a good idea, in my opinion. Some people say it sounds stupid, I personally thought it was a great name for the division and championship. It immediately makes you think of the X-Games, which are extreme sports. And in the beginning, the X-Division was the most extreme thing TNA had going for them. I don't care if they weren't technical masterpieces, the matches that guys like Low Ki, Juventud Guerrera, AJ Styles, Amazing Red, Christopher Daniels, Chris Sabin, Austin Aries, and Kid Kash were having back in 04-06 were fucking off the charts. Most entertaining matches I've seen outside of the "big ones" of those same years. It was incredible the things that they could do in the ring; it still is. During that time, the X-Division was show cased as an important part of TNA. It's what made them stand out. WWE doesn't have that. They destroyed the cruiserweight division for no particular reason, and TNA had all of the good cruiserweight action in spades.

Of course, Hogan and Russo have never respected the smaller guys further than "go out and do some flips and warm up the crowd for my promo." So until they're gone, the X-Division will remain a worthless piece of shit.
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This. They don't really focus on title chases, which seems like it should be the entire point. Who's the Knockout's champion? I dunno... let's have Sarita go monkey shit and try to kill people and make Angelina Love think she's hallucinating a real person who has a profile up on the TNA page, yet no one else working there can see her.
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Old 01-03-2011, 12:49 PM   #24
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The X Division has been dead since Hogan showed up.

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Get rid of the X division, rename the Knockouts division the XXX division and make them all wrestle naked.
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The X Division has been dead since Suicide won the belt, buried MCMG and Lethal Consequences by beating them every week concluding in a clean win in a one on four handicap match before subsequently becoming a massive jobber. Though I guess he was aptly named.
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I always thought that Rob Van Dam and Jeff Hardy should have been brought in for the X-Division. Really drive home what an attraction that division is to talent, and how unique it is to TNA, by having RVD and Hardy say they wanted to come to TNA just to compete there. I think it also could have benefited from Kurt Angle stepping in to work that style with some of the guys. Don't tell me that a Kurt Angle vs. Alex Shelley match would not be awesome.

But Hogan and Bischoff have really made a mess of TNA (with Russo's help). Personally, I think the best thing they can do for the X-Division is look around for some amazing indy talent who can work the style, and work on getting them contracted while Frankie Kazarian and AJ Styles feud over the belt.

At Genesis, have Doug Williams defeat Styles with the Chaos Theory, which means Styles is out of Fortune. You can also have Kazarian defeat Jay Lethal to win his fourth X-Division Title, and The Motor City Machine Guns defeat Beer Money to retain the TNA World Tag Team Titles. That way Styles has both an inadequacy thing with Kazarian, but also isn't the only Fortune guy to lose. Sets up a pretty good face turn, which can culminate in Kazarian vs. AJ Styles for the X-Division Title at Lockdown.
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