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Old 05-20-2004, 11:39 PM   #1
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Arrow wrestling in the 80's

Yes, I know some of you are too young to remember the 80's, but those of you that do are being asked for your input. Who did you like/not like in the WWF(E) between 1980 and 1990? Remember The Iron Sheik? Nikolai Volkoff? Blackjack Mulligan? Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat? Roddy Piper? Let's talk!

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Old 05-20-2004, 11:52 PM   #2
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I wouldn't really consider the 80's old school. :meh:

Anyway though, Dynamite and Ricky

Oh and Magnum TA !
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Old 05-20-2004, 11:59 PM   #3
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Oh and Magnum TA !
Ahh yes, Terry Allen. He had potential big star power, but sadly one night it was all taken away. Very unfortunate. Still, remember that great "I Quit Match" in the steel cage with Tully Blanchard (Starrcade '85).
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Old 05-21-2004, 12:07 AM   #4
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Old 05-21-2004, 12:16 AM   #5
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Also, Jake The Snake was the man.
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Old 05-21-2004, 12:22 AM   #6
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I think I watch more 80's WWF PPV's more then I watch all the new stuff these days. I just loved the Tag Division back then. I loved that all the belts really meant something and people held them for a while. Warrior was my favorite when I was a kid as was the Hart Foundation AND Demolition. I didn't like him back then, but Piper is the man when I watch him today on some of the old school tapes I have.
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Also, Jake The Snake was the man.
Not a good body, not a good wrestler, but still had that "IT factor." In his prime, he had great mic skills, was over with the fans (as face and heel), and was involved in some captivating storylines. Remember his feud with Savage, when Damien took a chunk of of the Macho Man's arm? (I think that was 90s).
It's too bad today Jake's a psychotic crackhead, but he was good at one time.
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Old 05-21-2004, 12:26 AM   #8
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Yeah, I still remember him going out and DDTing Hogan, and the fans started chanting DDT rather than booing. (Fairly sure it was Hogan, but it may have been someone else.)
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I think I watch more 80's WWF PPV's more then I watch all the new stuff these days. I just loved the Tag Division back then. I loved that all the belts really meant something and people held them for a while. Warrior was my favorite when I was a kid as was the Hart Foundation AND Demolition. I didn't like him back then, but Piper is the man when I watch him today on some of the old school tapes I have.
Same here with the tapes buddy Hart Foundation, Demolition, Strike Force, the Killer Bees... there were so many back then. Remember the Can-Am Connection? Good times.
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^^Yeah, that's when Vince said he couldn't have him be a heel anymore.
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Yeah, I still remember him going out and DDTing Hogan, and the fans started chanting DDT rather than booing. (Fairly sure it was Hogan, but it may have been someone else.)
Yeah, that's when Vince said he couldn't have him be a heel anymore.
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Old 05-21-2004, 12:30 AM   #12
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Yeah, that's when Vince said he couldn't have him be a heel anymore.
Shit. I never knew that. I guess it's safe to say there was heat with Roberts and Hogan. Hell, there was heat with Hogan and everybody.
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Jake just had that intangible something that made him great. That and his in ring psychology. Raven reminds me so much of him for some reason. I love both.

Thanks for confirming it was Hogan.
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Old 05-21-2004, 12:32 AM   #14
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Shit. I never knew that. I guess it's safe to say there was heat with Roberts and Hogan. Hell, there was heat with Hogan and everybody.
Yeah, Vince told him to go out and DDT Hogan, saying it would put him over as a heel. Jake insisted the fans would cheer but did it anyway... Jake was right.
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Old 05-21-2004, 12:33 AM   #15
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The early Wrestlemania's are so much more fun to watch then the newer ones. Jesse ventura's Commentating is hillarious.
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Old 05-21-2004, 12:35 AM   #16
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The early Wrestlemania's are so much more fun to watch then the newer ones. Jesse ventura's Commentating is hillarious.
Yep, and let's not forget Gorilla (RIP)
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Old 05-21-2004, 12:36 AM   #17
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Ventura was great as a commentator. Everything he said either had some subtle double meaning, or was just hilarious because the way he talked.

The early wrestlemania's were probably more fun because now we've seen everything. It's kind of like horror movies, back when they first came out they could scare you because it was new, now everything being done is some form of a remake. Same goes with wrestling, except for in a few rare instances.
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Old 05-21-2004, 12:37 AM   #18
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Yep, and let's not forget Gorilla (RIP)
Gorilla was so passionate about the business... that's honestly what made him great. You could tell he was there because he loved it, not because it was a job.
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Old 05-21-2004, 12:44 AM   #19
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You rememebr the Orndorff turn on Hogan? That was some classic sh**.
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Old 05-21-2004, 08:14 AM   #20
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You rememebr the Orndorff turn on Hogan? That was some classic sh**.
A little wrasslin' trivia for everybody - Paul Orndoff suffers from bipolar disorder (seriously). Anyway, yes, he was surely one of the greatest. Remember the steel cage match on Saturday Night's Main Event? Orndorff and Hogan and their simultaneous exit? Great stuff. It's too bad Orndorff was never the Heavyweight Champ. He could have definitely done it. Whatever happened to this guy?

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Old 05-22-2004, 12:11 PM   #21
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Not a good body, not a good wrestler, but still had that "IT factor." In his prime, he had great mic skills, was over with the fans (as face and heel), and was involved in some captivating storylines. Remember his feud with Savage, when Damien took a chunk of of the Macho Man's arm? (I think that was 90s).
It's too bad today Jake's a psychotic crackhead, but he was good at one time.
that was my favorite feud of all time.
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Old 05-22-2004, 01:32 PM   #22
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Ravishing Rick Rude was the best ever. Not too sure that he was around in the 80's but just thought I'd get that out there...
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Ravishing Rick Rude was the best ever. Not too sure that he was around in the 80's but just thought I'd get that out there...
Well, he wrestled in the Hogan era, which probably explains why he was never the world champion. Still, I'm sure you remember his feud with Jake "The Snake" Roberts.

For those who don't know, Rude used to take a young lady from the crowd, and plant a kiss on her prior to each match. One night, Jake's wife was sitting in the front row, and Rick selected her for the 'thrill of her life'. As per the script, she was of course greatly offended. She explained that she couldn't kiss him because her husband wouldn't like that. When Rick asked her who her husband was, she proudly said, "Jake 'the Snake' Roberts." Of course he was unimpressed, and kissed her anyways. She slapped him, and Rude pushed her to the floor. This began the feud. Rude carried Roberts for month, giving us a number of outstanding matches. A truly classic wrestling feud to be remembered for years to come.

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Old 05-22-2004, 04:11 PM   #24
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Steamboat. I'm a huge steamboat fan. I wasn't even old enough to watch wrestling in the 80s, and my computer is filled with wrestling from '80 to about '88. Steamboat was definately my favorite, especially his matches with Flair. Classic stuff..
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Old 05-22-2004, 05:04 PM   #25
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Old 05-22-2004, 05:25 PM   #26
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Andre "The Giant", Hulk Hogan, Shawn Michaels, Ric Rude, Ric Flair, Big Boss Man, "The Million $ Man", Dustey Roads, Randy Savage, and so on and so on e.t.c. All great wrestlers.
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Old 05-22-2004, 05:55 PM   #28
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What are you talking about? All the oldschool legends are here...Triple H, Steve Austin, the Rock...
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then what do you consider old school?
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I like to watch more of the old school stuff then the new stuff now. I always watch ton of Piper videos. He is definently one of my favs.
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good idea with an old school thread. anyways i always kind of prefered the nwa to the wwf durring the 80's since they were more wrestling oriented and the wwf was more cartoonish. since you metioned wwf though my favorites were macho man (as a heel), piper, the us express (windham and rotundo), hart foundation, british bulldogs, oh and king kong bundy and big john stud. even as a mark, i liked the heels and anyone who fueded with hogan or andre the giant went in my good books.

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good idea with an old school thread. anyways i always kind of prefered the nwa to the wwf durring the 80's since they were more wrestling oriented and the wwf was more cartoonish.
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good idea with an old school thread. anyways i always kind of prefered the nwa to the wwf durring the 80's since they were more wrestling oriented and the wwf was more cartoonish.
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The whole reason for this is to bring respect to a guy who really added a lot to the wrestling business. He was no Lou Thesz or Ric Flair, but the sport wasn't built up entirely by their types alone. He performed with diligence and sincerity -- that counts for something in this world. And, despite what most of his harshest (and might I add misinformed) critics have said about him, Frazier definitely could WRESTLE. He might have not fit the mold, but he definitely belonged in the business.

To the disenfranchised, as well as the legions of fans, stemming back to the very early 1960s, he was a true hero. Under the guise of Uncle Elmer in the World Wrestling Federation, he became one of the most famous wrestlers in the world, and was truly living out the American Dream, in his typically unorthodox way. Frazier was also a gentle soul, who had friends wherever he walked.

Now, I won’t candy coat things here – I know his matches were not always pristine displays of athleticism, and he competed much longer than his body wished him to. Some of his matches, especially in the last few years of his career, were very, very bad. Physically, there was very little left to offer at the end. But from the standpoint of entertainment, he never ceased to deliver. So many wrestlers continue to be popular, even though they are well beyond their prime. Hulk Hogan, Terry Funk, Jimmy Valiant, Bob Armstrong, Ric Flair and countless others remain popular draws in the business because they are true showmen. Stan Frazier was in that same category.

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Bah! All you whippersnappers are too young to remember Frank Gotch and George Hackenschmidt, but lemme tell you about the time I went down to the old Polo Grounds to watch Lou Thesz fight the Mad Russian (who was called the Mad German at the time 'cause there was a war on, y'see)...

I was so excited for this match, I went down to the bank and took out my life savings so I could buy my way into Thesz' wrestling school. I got $6.75 ('course we called dollars and cents "paper numbers and discs") out of the bank, and down I went. That gave me enough left over to buy my tights and boots.

Before you know it, I was...*falls asleep*
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Old 05-23-2004, 07:46 PM   #39
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The Ravishing One puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)The Ravishing One puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)The Ravishing One puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)The Ravishing One puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)The Ravishing One puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)The Ravishing One puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)The Ravishing One puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)The Ravishing One puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)The Ravishing One puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)
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Old 05-23-2004, 08:19 PM   #40
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MVP has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)MVP has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)MVP has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)MVP has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)MVP has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)MVP has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)MVP has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)MVP has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)MVP has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)MVP has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)
No one mentioned Captain Lou Albano, c'mon.
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