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Old 02-26-2011, 10:00 PM   #41
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Yeh its not always the length of the build that matters but the intensity of it.
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Old 02-26-2011, 10:00 PM   #42
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Just saw that you're already calling this the "Worst WrestleMania". If that's what you think, stop watching now. It's obviously POSSIBLE, but from the card you listed, that is by far not one of the worst WrestleManias, both from an in-ring standpoint and build standpoint.
Wasn't what I said. I said that this has "the worst WrestleMania" written all over it. It's possible that it could or couldn't be the worst. I'll wait to watch the event before I pass judgment, but on paper, it's lacking. We'll see.

With the whole Atlanta/WCW theme going on, getting somebody big from WCW like Goldberg for one night in match with somebody like Sheamus could definitely help this WrestleMania.
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Old 02-26-2011, 10:02 PM   #43
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What Atlanta/WCW theme?
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Old 02-26-2011, 10:04 PM   #44
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What does Goldberg really bring to the table outside of a "lol it's Atlanta/WCW" pop? It's not like he didn't work for WWE for a fucking year, which completely and utterly bombed, partially because WCW was dead for two years and his heat had already died down. Two years after the fact. It's now ten years after the fact.

I honestly feel that Goldberg would bring in a handful of buys at best. And why would you put him with someone like Sheamus to squash him? And if he's not doing his trademark squash (which is all he's really good at) why bring him in at all, outside of a HOF induction?

And outside of Nash and Booker, there's really no high profile WCW guys they could bring in. And even at that, both (and 90% of other guys, like Hogan, Hall, Bischoff and Steiner) had been in WWE within the last ten years. Back to beating a dead horse, Sting was the only one to really generate buzz.

The only thing I really see being done with the WCW gimmick in terms of a match, if at all, is a WCW Battle Royal.
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His name recognition alone. Along with simply the extra fans, he’ll also lend his name to the Hall of Fame. It’s not like he left because of an injury, and he’s still in his 40’s.

Okay, sure, he’s past it, but come on. He was the Stone Cold Steve Austin of WCW and would be good simply on nostalgia. This is a win-win situation. Goldberg wins, the company wins, and most importantly, the fans win. You’re taking a guy that’s a draw in the business and adding him to your biggest card of the year. I’d love to see a match between Goldberg and Sheamus to make up for the match he and Brock Lesnar had, especially since it’s in Atlanta, Goldberg’s hometown.
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It will be fine. It's WrestleMania.

For example:

Rey Mysterio vs. Cody Rhodes... boring.

Rey Mysterio vs. Cody Rhodes with the build they are giving it for WrestleMania... awesome.
I actually think this one could be be quite good,possibly in the show stealer category as well. I don't see a real problem with the card. if they still do MITB then I'm happy. Evan Bourne may be back . The only reason I care about Cena vs Miz is the "Rock factor",which I guess is the point. HHH vs. Taker is going to be a very good wrestling match.Knowing the ending to the Taker's WM matches is redundant now. It's more about the spectacle and the quality of his matches. I think it's shaping up fine.
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His name recognition alone. Along with simply the extra fans, he’ll also lend his name to the Hall of Fame. It’s not like he left because of an injury, and he’s still in his 40’s.

Okay, sure, he’s past it, but come on. He was the Stone Cold Steve Austin of WCW and would be good simply on nostalgia. This is a win-win situation. Goldberg wins, the company wins, and most importantly, the fans win. You’re taking a guy that’s a draw in the business and adding him to your biggest card of the year. I’d love to see a match between Goldberg and Sheamus to make up for the match he and Brock Lesnar had, especially since it’s in Atlanta, Goldberg’s hometown.
You know when Goldberg would've been a big draw for Wrestlemania? Nine years ago. Are you serious with this shit? Outside of a HOF induction, nobody with a brain gives a flying fuck about Goldberg or a Goldberg match anymore.
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Question: I have missed wrestling the last several weeks (I moved).....Everyone keeps talking about MITB. Are they having another one at Mania? Did they mention this yet or is it just internet speculation?
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Internet speculation, so it must be true.
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yeah the buy rate was absolute shit for MITB (or so i remember reading) but that doesn't mean we will have a 3rd MITB match this year. I am alllll for them creating another amazing gimmick in its place to start a new WM tradition.
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I didn't know this WrestleMania had to be "saved".

To me, it even looks better than last year's (except the HBK vs Undertaker match, of course).

Looks pretty good to me.
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Outside of a HOF induction, nobody with a brain gives a flying fuck about Goldberg or a Goldberg match anymore.
Are you serious with this?
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Old 02-27-2011, 06:23 AM   #54
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Old 02-27-2011, 07:43 AM   #55
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I didn't know this WrestleMania had to be "saved".

To me, it even looks better than last year's (except the HBK vs Undertaker match, of course).

Looks pretty good to me.
What 'Mania needs is an intervention. Fucker keeps showing up at my door, 3 AM, drunk as a poet on payday.
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Old 02-27-2011, 07:46 AM   #56
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I wonder at WM if we're going to get "Dashing" Cody Rhodes, or a hell bent Cody Rhodes who will do anything to destroy Rey.
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I wondered this myself..

Goldberg coming out with a full entrance would blow the roof off literally it always has and it always will he's an iconic star and still have the nostalgia factor. If he humbled a heel who was running his mouth about him or past wrestling stars in general it would be a huge markout moment for the fans.

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Old 02-27-2011, 12:44 PM   #58
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He's kind of going the unpredictable Golddust route and it seems to be a perfect fit. I thought the narcissist character would stick but it seems they've used it to create an aggressive narcissist character who believes he's been made to look like a monster, doesn't like the fans staring at him etc.

He could well destroy Mysterio at WM or Mysterio might get his revenge.

It could be a way for Mysterio to lose the mask potentially? Or to be put out for a while one way or the other.

I am kind of excited about the angle it's a fresh approach that's for sure.


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Goldberg wants one last match to show his son how he was in the ring. Sheamus could drag that match out of him and make it decent.

I can see them making a storyline of Goldberg/Sheamus, seeing as they both won a world title very early in their careers. For those who dislike the idea of Goldberg returning, like him or not, he’d be a draw for WrestleMania due to the fact that it will be held in Atlanta.

Sheamus could get a rub from taking Goldberg to the limit and wouldn’t lose any credibility if he lost.
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Would you stop banging on about Goldberg ffs. Sheamus is facing Bryan at WM anyway.
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If Goldberg was coming back I think he'd be back by now.
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what's the point of having a Money in The Bank Match at Wrestlemania if they have an entire PPV dedicated to the concept 4 months later (July)???????
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It would be a cool moment if they did with Goldberg what they did with Hogan back at WrestleMania 21. Have a segment where a midcard heel just is talking shit and picking on some poor babyface, and then have him come out and destroy him and pose and such for a "WrestleMania Moment". It would be a good way to use Zack Ryder and Hornswoggle. Hornswoggle and Santino come out to give out shirts and such. Zack Ryder comes out and talks shit to Hornswoggle while Santino runs to the back. Cut to Santino knocking on the door like the old security guards on Goldberg's locker room. BOOM. Goldberg comes out to full entrance. Zack Ryder tells him to take a hike bro or whatever and proceed with an ass-whooping.
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That would actually be pretty cool.
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Would you stop banging on about Goldberg ffs. Sheamus is facing Bryan at WM anyway.
Not official. If Bryan is even at WrestleMania, it will be in the Money In The Bank Ladder Match.
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All this talk about Goldberg reminds me of something...

He was part of the WORST WrestleMania match in HISTORY.
So anyone that says that an un-talented, un-charismatic persona such as Goldberg can "save" a WrestleMania card that is in no way "lacking," needs to have their head examined.
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Could say the same thing about anybody that thinks that Goldberg/Lesnar was the worst match in WrestleMania history.
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I'VE GOT IT!!!

underTaker vs. underTaker Round 2, return of Nash.
So Taker vs. Taker is billed.
Match starts.
Mid way through, we find out is Nash.
For some reason no one had noticed until now......
So this would be Kevin's first real match back.
Then Nash and Taker feud.
Something good happens.

Cena vs. Cena Battle of the Seperated Twins.
Somehow we find out that Cena has a scar on his hip.
Thus he digs in to it origin.
He finds that he has an evil twin brother who.... is... also named Cena.
Build hype.
Have match.
Everybody leaves disappointed.


Mr. McMahon, you can just make the check out to Chris Chaney... cuz that sir, is money!
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Not official. If Bryan is even at WrestleMania, it will be in the Money In The Bank Ladder Match.
I like how you are saying one match is not official, while putting forth yet another match that is not official.
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Could say the same thing about anybody that thinks that Goldberg/Lesnar was the worst match in WrestleMania history.
Then what is? I remember being very disappointed in that match. Best part about it was when it was over. That's a crap match.

What makes it the worst match is the fact that it wasn't one of those "go out and have a cigarette or go grab another beer" matches. It was supposed to be a great match, but failed miserably.

Usually, you know what is going to be a good match or not before it starts. This one had the promise of being a good match, yet was painful to watch. This is what makes it the worst match in 'Mania history.
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Then what is?
Blindfold Match - Jake Roberts vs. Rick Martel - WM7
Hulk Hogan vs. Sid Justice - WM8
Undertaker vs. Giant Gonzalez - WM9
Lawrence Taylor vs. Bam Bam Bigelow - WM11
Hell In A Cell - Undertaker vs. Big Boss Man - WM16

Five off the top of my head.
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The crowd made Lesnar-Goldberg an amazing match even if the match itself was bland. The crowd showed no mercy to either wrestler with all the booing and taunting while Stone Cold got the loudest cheers when he stunned both guys after the match.

Much better than a "dead"/silent crowd going with a bland or boring match.
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The crowd made Lesnar-Goldberg an amazing match even if the match itself was bland. The crowd showed no mercy to either wrestler with all the booing and taunting while Stone Cold got the loudest cheers when he stunned both guys after the match.

Much better than a "dead"/silent crowd going with a bland or boring match.
Oh, you mean the crowd booing the whole match? Wow. Yeah. That makes an awesome match.

This was one of the most hyped matches in 'Mania history, and failed to deliver on so many levels.

All the other matches that have been mentioned were probably expected to be bad, or did not have the hype and expectation of the Lesnar/Goldberg match at 'Mania XX.

Therefore, as I said...WORST MATCH IN 'MANIA HISTORY. And I'll always stand beside that.
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This was not 'one of the most hyped matches in 'Mania history' since just about everybody knew in the leadup and during the match that both guys were done with afterwards. If anything, once that stuff came out, it was all quite anti-climatic, hence them being booed out of the building. And even if you were right about hype, expectations etc, no matter how you tart it up, there is no chance in hell that Goldberg/Lesnar was worse than David Sammartino/Beefcake, Andre/Big John Studd, Wendi Richter/Leilani Kai/most of the divas matches ever, Adrian Adonis/Uncle Elmer, the 6 'man' from WM III, Khali/Kane, Show/Akebono, Taker/Gonzalez, Taker/Bossman, Hogan/Bundy etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc (the list could go on a bit)
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