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Old 03-10-2011, 03:44 PM   #1
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Which four matches...
... would you show to a non-wrestling fan to get them interested?

Choose one match from each era:
- 1984-1992
- 1992-1998
- 1998-2002 (Attitude Era)
- 2003-present

Mine would be:

Savage/Steamboat, WM3
Hart/Austin, WM13
Hardys/Dudleys/E+C, WM17
Lesnar/Big Show, Smackdown, sometime in 2003 (I think, correct me if I am wrong. If I am wrong, I'll say Miz/Morrison, Falls Count Anywhere, Raw, 2011)

What do you all think?
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Old 03-10-2011, 03:55 PM   #2
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Triple H vs Shawn Michaels - Summerslam 2002
Triple H vs Steve Austin - No Way Out 2001
Triple H vs Batista - Vengeance 2005
Triple H vs Cactus Jack - Royal Rumble 2000
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Warrior/Hogan ICvs.WWF Title
Austin/Shawn Michaels WM
Hardys/Dudleys/EC - WM
Eddie Guerrero/Brock Lesnar WM
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Old 03-10-2011, 04:27 PM   #4
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Hulk Hogan v Ultimate Warrior (Wrestlemania 7 i think?)

Undertaker v Mankind (King Of The Ring 1998)

Jerry Lynn v RVD (Guilty As Charged 2000)

Chris Jericho v Rey Mysterio (Extreme Rules 2009)
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Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat (WrestleWar '89)
Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels (WrestleMania XII)
Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels (SummerSlam '02)
The Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels (WrestleMania 25)
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Triple H vs Shawn Michaels - Summerslam 2002
Triple H vs Steve Austin - No Way Out 2001
Triple H vs Batista - Vengeance 2005
Triple H vs Cactus Jack - Royal Rumble 2000
LOL, who needs 4 eras when can squeeze it all into 5 years amirite?
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*1984-1991
*1992-1997

Just to be a pedantic cunt
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Old 03-10-2011, 05:27 PM   #8
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Choose one match from each era:
- 1984-1992: Ric Flair vs. Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (Chi-Town Rumble)
- 1992-1998: Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker (Hell in a Cell)
- 1998-2002 (Attitude Era) "Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs. Triple H (Three Stages of Hell)
- 2003-present Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H. vs. Chris Benoit (Wrestlemania XX)
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But yeah, off the top of my head aiming at non-fans:

Hogan/Warrior WM6
Michaels/Mankind IYH: Mind Games
Undertaker/Mankind KOTR '98
HBK/Angle WM 21
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... would you show to a non-wrestling fan to get them interested?

Choose one match from each era:
- 1984-1992
- 1992-1998
- 1998-2002 (Attitude Era)
- 2003-present

Mine would be:

Savage/Steamboat, WM3
Hart/Austin, WM13
Hardys/Dudleys/E+C, WM17
Lesnar/Big Show, Smackdown, sometime in 2003 (I think, correct me if I am wrong. If I am wrong, I'll say Miz/Morrison, Falls Count Anywhere, Raw, 2011)

What do you all think?
Ultimate Warrior vs Hulk Hogan (Title Vs Title)
Stone Cold Steve Austin vs Bret the Hitman Hart (Wrestlemania 13)
Randy Savage vs Million Dollar Man (Heavyweight Title Match)
Undertaker vs HBK (Wrestlemania 26)
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Old 03-10-2011, 05:38 PM   #11
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I might replace the WM12 Iron Man Match with Taker-Mankind's Hell in a Cell match just to switch up and show different styles.
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Pretty sure HBK/Bret at WM 12 would bore any non-fan to tears tbh
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Hogan/Warrior at WM6
HBK/Bret at WM12
Taker/Mankind at KOTR 1998
Benoit/HHH/HBK at WM 20 or Eddie/Lesnar at NWO2004.... too close to call.....
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Pretty sure HBK/Bret at WM 12 would bore any non-fan to tears tbh
That's the issue. It's tough to designate what matches to show people to get them into wrestling. We're all fans of wrestling so it's tough to take the view of someone who hates it.

I think if someone can't appreciate that match though, I don't think they have a shot at being a fan of wrestling.
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That's the issue. It's tough to designate what matches to show people to get them into wrestling. We're all fans of wrestling so it's tough to take the view of someone who hates it.

I think if someone can't appreciate that match though, I don't think they have a shot at being a fan of wrestling.
Thats the point of the thread though... what matches would you show someone who's not a fan. A casual person would be bored. So you'll have to go to exciting matches to get them into it.

Once they say "yeah I could watch this" then they can learn eventually to appreciate the classics.

Ramming it down their throat "you have to appreciate this, its such a feat" won't turn someone onto the product.... casual people like an explosion, not a soliloquy
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Not to mention HBK/Bret from WM was pretty boring for the most part.
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But is the assumption that we need to show them things to KEEP them fans. Showing them stuff and then having them watch now and realize how it's nothing like what they were shown seems meaningless.

Good pure wrestling is really the only constant. Other things change.
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Not to mention HBK/Bret from WM was pretty boring for the most part.
Well, we're all entitled to our opinions.

... However wrong they may be...
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Not necessarily the best matches, but I think these would be the easiest to make a wrestling fan out of:

1984-1992 = Hogan vs. Warrior - WM 6
1993-1997 = Hart vs. Austin - WM 13
1998-2002 = Taker-Mankind - KOTR 98
2003-Present = HBK vs. Flair - WM 24
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Also, you've gotta factor in background. Do they get the whole background leading up to the match? If so, Taker-HBK from WM 25 is the best all-era choice for me.

Or maybe WM 26. The build was technically better despite my personal dislike of the match.
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Bret vs Stone Cold
DDP vs Goldberg
Kurt Angle vs Shawn Michaels
Rock vs Hogan WM18
Batista vs Triple H
Batista vs Undertaker
Batista vs Shawn Michaels
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Limiting this to one match per wrestler.

84-92 (technically 83, but whatever): Piper vs Valentine - Dog Collar Match
1992-1998: Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin - Mania 13
1998-2002: Triple H vs. The Undertaker - Mania 17
2003-Present: Cena vs. Umaga - Royal Rumble 2007
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Limiting this to one match per wrestler.

84-92 (technically 83, but whatever): Piper vs Valentine - Dog Collar Match
1992-1998: Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin - Mania 13
1998-2002: Triple H vs. The Undertaker - Mania 17
2003-Present: Cena vs. Umaga - Royal Rumble 2007
This list intrigues me.

I wish to discuss it now.
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Hogan vs warrior wm 6
Austin vs hart wm 13
Benoit vs Booker t (best of seven....all seven, even if its cheating)
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This list intrigues me.

I wish to discuss it now.
Every one includes at least one top star from their respective era, and all of them involve what I love about wrestling, and I feel these types of matches are easier for someone who would be into the more non-PG product, but would still be starting out as a "casual" fan.

I'd have preferred to have Taker vs. Michaels on that list, but I'd used Taker vs Hunter. Plus, it gives a good match (arguably one of his best) from Cena.
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but it seems to be a favorite amongst the people
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Were you not aware that people love that match for the most part?
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Old 03-10-2011, 10:57 PM   #28
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Ultimate Warrior vs Randy Savage - Wrestlemania 7
Steve Austin vs Bret Hart - Wrestlemania 13
Hardy Boyz vs Dudley Boyz vs Edge & Christian - Wrestlemania 17
Chris Jericho vs Shawn Michaels - Wrestlemania 19
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Were you not aware that people love that match for the most part?
apparently not.... thats what I was saying...
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Old 03-10-2011, 11:43 PM   #30
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84-92: Tie between War Games I (Great American Bash Tour 1987) or Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat (WrestleWar 89:Music City Showdown)
92-98: Undertaker vs Mankind (Hell In A Cell, KOTR 1998)
92-02: Shawn Michaels vs Triple H (3 Stages of Hell, Armageddon 02)
02-Present: Kurt Angle vs Undertaker (No Way Out 06)
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1984-1992: Wrestlemania VI- Champion versus Champion match: Intercontinental Champion The Ultimate Warrior versus WWF Champion Hulk Hogan.

1992-1998: Wrestlemania XII- 60 minute Iron Man Match: Shawn Michaels verus WWF Champion Bret "The Hitman" Hart.

1998-2002: Wrestlemania XIX- The Rock versus Hollywood Hulk Hogan.

2003-present: Judgement Day 2003- Strecher match: Big Show versus WWE Champion Brock Lesnar.
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Old 03-12-2011, 12:41 AM   #32
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LOL, who needs 4 eras when can squeeze it all into 5 years amirite?
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Old 03-12-2011, 01:14 AM   #33
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1984-1992: Hogan v. Warrior-Mania 6

1992-1998: Hart v. Austin-Mania 13

1998-2002- Austin v. Rock-Mania 17

2002-Present- Cena v. Triple H-Mania 22

Hogan/Warrior speaks for itself. Bret and Austin was the beginning of a new era, and Austin got kickstarted into his push to the top. Austin/Rock marked the end of that new era, with the two top babyfaces going at it to bring the Attitude era home. Cena/H was again, the beginning of a new era. Cena had been on top for a year, but this was by far the biggest, hottest match he had been in.
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Old 03-12-2011, 02:33 AM   #34
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1984-1992: Ric Flair vs Ricky Steamboat (the trilogy of matches they had in 1989)
1992-1998: Shane Douglas vs Sabu vs Terry Funk (ECW The Night the Line was Crossed)
1998-2002: RVD vs Jerry Lynn (ECW Hardcore Heaven '99)
2003-2011: Shawn Michaels vs Chris Jericho (WM 21)
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Old 03-12-2011, 10:15 AM   #35
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1984 to 1991
--Ricky Steamboat [c] v. Ric Flair (Best Two Out of Three Falls for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship, NWA Clash of the Champions VI – “Ragin’ Cajun”)

1992 to 1997
--Bret Hart [c] v. Owen Hart (Cage Match for the WWF World Heavyweight Championship, WWF Summer Slam 1994)

1998 to 2002
--Brock Lesnar [c] v. The Undertaker (Hell in a Cell Match for the WWE Heavyweight Championship, WWE No Mercy 2002)

2003 to Present
--Brock Lesnar [c] v. Eddie Guerrero (for the WWE Heavyweight Championship, WWE No Way Out 2004)
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1984-1991:
---Ricky Steamboat vs. Randy Savage - Intercontinental Championship Match - WrestleMania III

1992-1997:
---Rey Mysterio vs. Eddie Guerrero - Cruiserweight Championship VS Mask Match - Halloween Havoc 1997

1998-2002:
---The Rock vs. Brock Lesnar - WWE Undisputed Championship - Summerslam 2002

2003-Present:
---Cactus Jack vs. Randy Orton - No Holds Barred Match - Backlash 2004
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