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Old 05-27-2011, 06:42 PM   #201
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That face turn last week was incredible. Mz went all out to put him over
Definitely. Riley held up his end of the bargain, but The Miz helped everything. If they have a match at Capitol Punishment, I think it'll surprise a lot of people. And again, I would actually put down money to see it. I can't say that about too many programs in professional wrestling right now.
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Old 05-27-2011, 07:35 PM   #202
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I wanna say like everyone else, I too enjoyed that fuckin beat down. Also, I knew he had it in him!

I'm not counting on this to be a true face turn, maybe just for a feud with Miz then he loses, goes to Smackdown and gets bigger and goes with Orton for a while etc...

It could be pretty great.
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Old 05-27-2011, 07:51 PM   #203
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The only reason I would turn Riley heel is if the face turn doesn't work. If you have a chance to make money off Riley now, take it, I say.

Also, if they plan on turning Christian heel eventually, it'd be good to have some strong faces (crowd connection-wise) on SmackDown!.
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Old 05-27-2011, 10:20 PM   #204
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Except we agree on the two...

The point was that they had the same roles, but Alex Riley:

a) Kept his through the main event of WrestleMania.

b) Has used it to make a career for himself.
I was just saying Jackson Andrews is not someone to use as a comparison tool.

Apparently SlickyTrickyDamon was incapable of taking my comment in context and thought I was sarcastically claiming that Alex Riley was no better than Jackson Andrews. When in fact I was ACTUALLY saying Jackson Andrews isn't even worth a mention.

And I still can't believe I had to clarify that to him.
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Riley needs to be addressed (more) in the form of nick name. "Alex Riley" doesn't sound very threatening. That's about the only thing I can see that's wrong with him. Assuming he gets more definition of character when he's out on his own. I'd say he's pretty decent and he works very well with The Miz. This is a good angle.
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"John Cena" doesn't exactly sound like a huge superstar name either. Name's only matter early on. If all works out, your name's credibility follows whatever you do. Not vice versa.

I mean... The Undertaker is still a retarded wrestling name if you REALLY think about it.
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Riley needs to be addressed (more) in the form of nick name. "Alex Riley" doesn't sound very threatening. That's about the only thing I can see that's wrong with him. Assuming he gets more definition of character when he's out on his own. I'd say he's pretty decent and he works very well with The Miz. This is a good angle.
He has been referred to as the Varsity Villain in the past but that doesn't work very well if they decide to turn him face but then again it could only end up being a temporary thing and will be back to his same old self once he's done his program with The Miz and then continues on his own back on SD where he was supposed to be weeks ago.
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How did he look during his segment on RAW this week? Glad they moved Riley back to RAW. I hope they send some guys not doing anything on RAW over to SmackDown!. The Superstars side over there could use some heels like Primo.
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Old 05-31-2011, 01:16 AM   #211
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IMO, he looked good. Got his own entrance music that sounds good. Survived an ambush attack from behind. Sold the initial beating and worked his way to putting a whuppin on the Miz. As apposed to Cena's superman comebacks, it was a nice change to see a semi-believable fight back into a chase off.
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He's still on SD they're just playing out his feud with Miz out for now to get him over first and so far so good.
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I read somewhere that the RAW GM bought back Riley's contract?

The segment sounds good, so to hear it played well makes me happy. I like that they seemingly want to make Riley look strong, and have him kick ass.
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#1 wwf-fan, this isn't exactly your finest hour here in this thread. WWE continues to prove you wrong every week.
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sheeeet that intro with the orchestral bit for Riley's music is hot fire
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I read somewhere that the RAW GM bought back Riley's contract?

The segment sounds good, so to hear it played well makes me happy. I like that they seemingly want to make Riley look strong, and have him kick ass.
Missed that but when I last checked wwe.com he was still listed as being on SD and he was still on the intro from last weeks show too so I dunno but they're gonna need a upper card face if there gonna be turning Christian anytime soon.
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Old 05-31-2011, 01:50 PM   #217
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Yeah, Riley's bypassed the "generic theme" phase to go straight to "cool theme with lyrics"
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arrr, same lot that did Miz's theme and the cover of Dolph's
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Old 05-31-2011, 08:02 PM   #219
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Love the barricade dive

I like the program so far.
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The opening of his theme and the reaction he got gave me chills.
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#1 wwf-fan, this isn't exactly your finest hour here in this thread. WWE continues to prove you wrong every week.
Actually they don't. My point was that people will try find reasons why someone is the next big thing. Which still stands. The reasoning behind things were ridiculous.

If Riley stays on Raw, which it seems he might from what I'm hearing, that supports less the "Riley survived being drafted to Smackdown" argument and more the "WWE has no fucking clue what they want a month in advance" argument.

I'll also use the "WWE has no fucking clue what they're doing a week in advance" argument since Riley losing to Cena to be fired and then coming back the next week under a flimsy "Oh... um... he was fired from one title, and now he has another" kinda shows them changing their mind from one extreme to another within the span of a week. It served no purpose outside of that and it still isn't an example of them being so high on him they did a pointless angle to fire and rehire him.
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I will say that I'm enjoying what they're doing with him and I thought he actually looked pretty good last night. I never said I hated the man though or that I didn't want to see him do big things. I actually said I wanted him to be big. I just wasn't gonna use anything and everything I could find to reason him being the next big thing.
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My point was that people will try find reasons why someone is the next big thing. Which still stands. The reasoning behind things were ridiculous.
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I just wasn't gonna use anything and everything I could find to reason him being the next big thing.
Cannot believe that this is still your 'argument'/point. If you honestly believe that, you cannot have read a single word of what was written in response to you or you are simply ignoring it so you can keep repeating the same point.
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I think in 3 months Alex Riley is buried in the mid card.

Good entrance music though.
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Cannot believe that this is still your 'argument'/point. If you honestly believe that, you cannot have read a single word of what was written in response to you or you are simply ignoring it so you can keep repeating the same point.
Repeating the same point because someone else brought it up...

Notice I quoted someone. As in I replied to them. Idiot.
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And yes I did read the responses... and I didn't find one of them to be a good reason why "He survived a draft" (which ended up being a moot point and showed WWE had no idea what they wanted to do) and "He survived being fired" (Which ended up being a moot point and showed WWE had no idea what they wanted to do) were valid points.

Now, if someone brings it up, I will continue to say it as long as need be.
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lol. Jesus fucking Christ.

I stand corrected!
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:20 AM   #229
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:26 AM   #230
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In my eyes, Riley losing to Cena and being brought back under a different title was just The Miz's form of a loophole to keep him around (since he knew how important he was to his success). I feel that was the plan the whole time, and you can't tell me for sure that I'm not right, #1-wwf-fan.
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:27 AM   #231
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It was actually very "Jerichoesque" from when he was a conspiracy victim.
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:41 AM   #232
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ABT, are you surmising that they used the hired/rehired angle to gain HEEL HEAT!?

Cos that's just ricockulus.
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:42 AM   #233
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:46 AM   #234
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:55 AM   #236
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I used to respect you as a member of these here boards but you've totally "Jumped the Shark" with these insane leaps of logic.

For shame AbT, for shame.
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ABT, are you surmising that they used the hired/rehired angle to gain HEEL HEAT!?

Cos that's just ricockulus.
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Old 06-03-2011, 02:18 AM   #238
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Never thought of that tactic! Bischoff must be pissed he didn't come up with that one.
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And yes I did read the responses... and I didn't find one of them to be a good reason why "He survived a draft" (which ended up being a moot point and showed WWE had no idea what they wanted to do) and "He survived being fired" (Which ended up being a moot point and showed WWE had no idea what they wanted to do) were valid points.

Now, if someone brings it up, I will continue to say it as long as need be.
Ugh, can't you read? To borrow from Matt Striker -- "intelligence is the application of knowledge." Apply a little thought to what you read. When I said "he survived a draft," I mean that he still has a place on RAW, when his official place was on SmackDown!. Believe it or not, when the WWE wants you all over the place -- it's a good thing.

You can say they don't have an idea what they are doing all you want -- but so far this angle has played out pretty fucking well. Riley has been given awesome new music, has been made to look like a star, and has been moved back to RAW because someone in the WWE had the brains to realise "Holy shit! This shit we're doing with A-Ri is fucking hot!"

No one was saying Alex Riley is going to revolutionise the industry. Just that he has all the tools to be a major player (which he does), and that the WWE seems to think so, too (which they do). This has all been evidenced as you are forced to stand-by a point that is counter to something absolutely no one was saying.

Now, I just laid an A-Ri-style beating on your ass. See, the guy can even be a meme.
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