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Old 07-25-2011, 11:43 PM   #401
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Haven't seen this segment, but Punk coming out to Cult of Personality is amazing. If he uses Miseria Cantare at Summerslam, all the better.
if he'd have used Miseria Cantere tonight with the intro/the lighting/WWE production and so on, there's a decent chance I'd have involuntarily pissed all over my chair, TV, g/f, ashtray and so forth. Probably worked out for the best.
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:46 PM   #403
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Are you serious? The Main Event was insane, the opening match was awesome, and Kofi vs Dolph was sick, not to mention the wank worthy diva's match. Give it a break, that was fucking wrestling tonight!
Kofi vs Dolph? Pretty sure they didn't wrestle each other tonight. No, but seriously the wrestling does not compare to what it was about give or take six years ago.
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From the moment the opening riff hit, I was marking out like a little kid. My roommate had no clue what was going on.
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really good show, although I think I fell asleep for a few minutes during the Cena/Rey match. dunno what the fuck happened, but I know I missed the entrances and half the match.

ending was pretty incredible. for a minute I was thinking they brought back Punk really soon, but Juan just pointed out SS was 2 weeks away, so that makes sense. PPV's come so quickly these days.
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I'll say this. It WAS rushed. I do not disagree with that. And I agree with the music aspect. It would have been better to do it in a smarter city so it'd get a pop. But you have to remember that this was likely a spur of the moment thing. I have a feeling that the MITB match was planned the way it was after Punk's promo. He was probably scheduled to lose and then they realized what they had.

I have no doubt in my mind that WWE was not going into SummerSlam with the thought of Punk vs Cena as the main event just a month ago. Punk got white hot, and they only had a few weeks to work with.

Now, if they had some better planning, and actually planned this out from Capitol Punishment, it would have gone smoother and been more of a slow build. A few extra weeks of Punk away and all that.

But for what it is, I'm vastly enjoying this whole storyline. It has me more hooked than I have been since probably 97-00. They're doing cliffhangers perfectly, and making me look forward to RAW. A few imperfections with the title or music, and even the rushed feel, aren't going to kill it for me. It's just too good.
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:48 PM   #407
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I agree. Until tonight. They just handled it poorly IMO. I feel really cheated out of a mark out moment. It was really rushed and the music thing is inexcusable. Just poorly done.
I guess that's somewhat justified, but I don't think a theme music change could ever ruin an entire moment for me. It kind of added a little mystery and intrigue, similar to the lights dimming before you heard "IF YA SMEEEEL!" when the rock returned earlier this year.
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:48 PM   #408
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Kinda feel like Punk's old theme became iconic at Money in the Bank. Like anytime you would hear the opening of his theme you'd think back to that night and that moment when he was the biggest thing ever.

But it's cool.
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Wouldn't be surprised if Punk was pushing for the music weeks ago but just didn't get it. Would have been better to have it when he came out for the Vince angle, and had been established for the PPV.

But I'm not hung up on the music. I like Cult of Personality, it fits Punk. It just took away from a huge pop is all, and that may have been the point. Hasney had said that it could have been to add to the confusion, and it certainly did, even for me (didn't know it was Punk's theme, actually thought it was the SummerSlam theme).
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Funny. Just yesterday I watched for the first time some of Punk in ROH. The segment where he signed his WWE contract on the title. So I heard him come out to the music yesterday.

So when it started playing tonight I was like... "Huh? This music... who's music is this? Wait... I saw Punk use it..." and sure enough, it was him.

In conclusion, would have marked out so hard if it was his normal music. Instead only marked out a little.

Whatever, though. I don't really care. Should be good.
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so do we know if Punk signed a new deal yet? Or is Summerslam it?
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Funny. Just yesterday I watched for the first time some of Punk in ROH. The segment where he signed his WWE contract on the title. So I heard him come out to the music yesterday.

So when it started playing tonight I was like... "Huh? This music... who's music is this? Wait... I saw Punk use it..." and sure enough, it was him.

In conclusion, would have marked out so hard if it was his normal music. Instead only marked out a little.

Whatever, though. I don't really care. Should be good.
punk is a free agent now...doesnt it make sense that he uses his ROH music since WWE owns old song?
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so do we know if Punk signed a new deal yet? Or is Summerslam it?
That's the big question. Obvious he has a new deal, but for how long? Years or a month?
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Old 07-26-2011, 12:09 AM   #416
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I thought I read here that the "Best in the World" Punk shirt was selling for $550 on eBay? I'm sure it'll be on WWEshop.com at a slightly more reasonable price.
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Old 07-26-2011, 12:15 AM   #418
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Has anyone here mentioned yet that the writer of Raw is also the one responsible for this whole Punk era thing? Guess what? It's none other than Khali's former manager, RANJINH SINGH!!!!!
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because Singh is the head writer doesn't mean he's responsible for it, it could have come from a bunch of different places. The writers job is also to shape all of the greenlit ideas into a coherent wrestling show on top of being creative.
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They are acknowledging both John Cena and Rey Mysterio as champions.
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Damn just watched it recorded. That ending was f'n epic. Perfect way to bring him back. Sets up the Punk Cena rematch for SummerSlam you would think right?

Cena has been on a roll match wise recently, sure he's worked with two of the best going with Rey and Punk but damn those matches have been great.

Freakin Ryder on Raw. Enough said.

JR back was a nice surprise too. I see them just having Cole do Smackdown now.
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For those who are upset with the ending, I think it's a lot of people that are gun shy. Frankly I am one of them. The WWE had an AMAZING angle last year with Nexus and you had a guy like Wade Barrett who seemed like a super heel.

It was interesting, fresh and different. But they took a 4 month angle and completely killed it in 2-3 weeks with shoddy booking. The whole plan seemed to go great until it's like the writers realized "wow, it's almost time for the Royal Rumble, we're in trouble!"

I love what they're doing with Punk but I agree a lot of this seemed to be rushed. I think they could have gone backward a month and started this all in June. Have the Punk/Cena angle take time to marinate on people.

Then you could have had Mysterio hold the title and lose it to Cena in July. You then have the Punk reveal, having been off TV for about a month.

You'd then have an entire build up to this match from MITB to Summerslam instead of rushing this plan ahead.
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This angle is too hot not to pull the trigger on it for Summerslam. It would probably be ideal if Summerslam were the 28th rather than the 14th, so Punk can sell the "I'm not under contract" thing for 2 more weeks, but who cares? This main event is going to be fucking great.
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The reason behind the new music is pretty simple because Vince banned anything related to CM Punk which includes his previous tron and music which is something Triple H didn't unbanned yet.

So for Punk's return to occur on tv, he needed new music (ROH theme) and a new tron. The announcers also never said his name due to the banning on his name by Vince.

It should be interesting if Rey cashing his rematch during Summerslam to make it a potential 3-way match or if they just have him lose next week and forget all about the WWE title tournament and Rey's claim to the title.
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I was actually falling asleep during the Mysterio/Cena match. Not because I was bored, but I was actually really tired. It's been a long day for me and it's 4:20am here now.

But as soon as Cult Of Personality played and CM Punk walked out, it woke me up and now I'm not tired at all.
Same.

Exact same thing happened when he cut that shoot promo. Luckily this time I don't have to be in work in 5 hours like I did that night
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because Singh is the head writer doesn't mean he's responsible for it, it could have come from a bunch of different places. The writers job is also to shape all of the greenlit ideas into a coherent wrestling show on top of being creative.
Well, different writers or not, THEY all need to get thanked and showered with Austin's beer.
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Would have marked 100 times harder if I knew the music had a connection to Punk. That was amazing. Perfect ending. I've missed the cliffhanger endings.

This is now three weeks in a row that I am totally stoked for RAW.

This build is seriously rivaling the build to SummerSlam 98. May be the best SummerSlam main event build since then.
Seriously haven't enjoyed wrestling so much since the attitude era. Amazing.
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:10 AM   #430
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Is Miz hurt or is he getting de-pushed or what?
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:12 AM   #431
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The time for WWE to give Punk the opportunity to become THE man, to give him the chance to fully develop his character, take control, and take the WWE to another level is NOW...I hope WWE fully understands this and does not drop the ball, because there will be no other time...it's make or break time...

...but it looks like WWE "gets" it...JR is back, Triple H is in as the authority figure on tv, Punk is getting exposure, so...

...let's keep our fingers crossed.
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:17 AM   #432
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I, for one, am not a fan of JR being back. Last couple times he has come back... I dunno. He just seems to have lost it. Doesn't know what to say half the time. Its nice to hear him from time to time, but I don't want him full time.
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:20 AM   #433
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He's just rusty...it's not easy to do play-by-play, and if you add that he hasn't done it consistently for about a year or more, even more so...it takes time for him to get his "swing" back...but he will...
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:21 AM   #434
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I think this was rushed but it is greatness.
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:21 AM   #435
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http://vids.wwe.com/12696/wwecom-exc...m-punk-tells-t

Neat. Someone signed a Contract.
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:25 AM   #436
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Here's the thing about the music. I knew the moment I heard that music it was Punk because of my exposure to ROH. They're trying for those people with this angle and I think it's working REALLY well. I am excited to see how this plays out.
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Totally killed this for me. Why even bring Mysterio into this? The whole thing just really bothers me. There's a tourney that is completely negated by Super Cena? HHH comes in as a face and fucks over Mysterio for no reason and he's not even mad about it? They change Punk's music on a return so nobody knows who he is?

Jesus.
I agree with the Mysterio thing. I RARELY watch RAW but I tuned in tonight for most of the show. The main event was great..I didn't know whose song it was in the end but it was a great theme and I was wondering who it was gonna be..

But yea Super Cena just keeps killing it, every time I tune in every other month he's winning another freaking championship match , he's not even that great. And another thing I dont like is there's rematches all the time..like a rematch from a ppv the night before, a rematch next week from tonight. a rematch on the same show ...PRETTY POINTLESS
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:34 AM   #438
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Punk is the shit if only bc on Living Colour. When I was a kid they were my favourite band.
Interesting.
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Punk is the shit 'cause he's a Cubs fan.
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Old 07-26-2011, 02:14 AM   #440
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Totally killed this for me. Why even bring Mysterio into this? The whole thing just really bothers me. There's a tourney that is completely negated by Super Cena? HHH comes in as a face and fucks over Mysterio for no reason and he's not even mad about it? They change Punk's music on a return so nobody knows who he is?

Jesus.
I feel you on the part about Mysterio getting screwed and Cena just destroying the whole thing but I don't have a problem with the music even though I never heard it before or knew it had a connection with Punk. If anything I would have prefered the AFI song.
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