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Old 08-01-2011, 11:00 PM   #241
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:00 PM   #242
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:01 PM   #243
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:03 PM   #244
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:04 PM   #245
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:04 PM   #246
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:05 PM   #247
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:05 PM   #248
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:05 PM   #249
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:05 PM   #250
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Anybody else notice they turned up Cenas music to cover up the boos?
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:05 PM   #251
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:07 PM   #252
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:07 PM   #253
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Anybody else notice they turned up Cenas music to cover up the boos?
I heard Cena getting the louder reaction
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:08 PM   #254
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:08 PM   #255
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You think some of Cena's cheers might be piped in? I'm just wondering if they might want to try to get Cena back to being viewed as a true babyface.
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:08 PM   #256
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I heard Cena getting the louder reaction

Yeah, this wasn't a CM Punk crowd, for whatever reason.
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:08 PM   #257
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:09 PM   #258
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You think some of Cena's cheers might be piped in?
The kids/women cheering for Cena have higher voices too. There's more of a roar when Punk raises his, and a roar for booing Cena, but it's easier for the music to drown them out. BAsically, the higher pitched cheers clash with the musics more.
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:10 PM   #259
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There IS the possibility that WWE pipes in some cheers for Cena...
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:11 PM   #260
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^ I noticed in most Cena entrances, the only cheers I hear are those little jimmies and jennies in Cena shirts while the grown ups are booing loudly on that.
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:11 PM   #261
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Nice ending and it sort of sounded like the sound system was about to break with that loud screeching sound from the constant music switching.

Cena trying to say he feels like Larry Bird in the arena during his intro except for the fact Bird never played in the Pacers arena.

CM Punk might be able to do in 2 months what Orton struggled for years in having a feud with Cena that the crowd really likes and get people outside of wrestling interested as well.
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:11 PM   #262
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The kids/women cheering for Cena have higher voices too. There's more of a roar when Punk raises his, and a roar for booing Cena, but it's easier for the music to drown them out. BAsically, the higher pitched cheers clash with the musics more.
I was about to say, the higher pitched screams of women and children sound louder than men cheering.
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:12 PM   #263
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Looks like Cena is trying to ride Punk's thunder. Really lame.
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:12 PM   #264
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:13 PM   #265
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There IS the possibility that WWE pipes in some cheers for Cena...
I honestly thought cheers were piped in, epescially the 2nd time Cena held up the belt. sounded generic
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:14 PM   #266
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:14 PM   #267
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Looks like Cena is trying to ride Punk's thunder. Really lame.
Yeah. It definitely felt like they were trying to have him rebel Punk style on Johnny Ace. Didn't really come off well in my opinion. Especially after the exchange Punk and Hunter had to start the show.
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:16 PM   #268
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Anybody else notice they turned up Cenas music to cover up the boos?
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I heard Cena getting the louder reaction
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You think some of Cena's cheers might be piped in? I'm just wondering if they might want to try to get Cena back to being viewed as a true babyface.
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The kids/women cheering for Cena have higher voices too. There's more of a roar when Punk raises his, and a roar for booing Cena, but it's easier for the music to drown them out. BAsically, the higher pitched cheers clash with the musics more.
Lol, are we really disecting the cheers for both CM Punk and Cena? Ah, good times
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:17 PM   #269
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I was thinking "Super" Dave Osborne.
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:18 PM   #270
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:22 PM   #271
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That raw was kinda lame. Everyone knew it was gonna be Punk Cena at SS anyway.
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:30 PM   #272
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Damn. What's Jericho's issue with Punk?
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apparently Cole mentioned this guy in the Del Rio match..I dunno
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Just watched this on a bit of a delay. I actually really enjoyed it. Felt like the second hour kind of dragged with the tag match and Bourne/Del Rio, but otherwise it was a damn fine RAW. I'd say it keeps RAW's momentum going in terms of consecutive good shows.

Marked out quite a bit at the opening promo, with what Punk was saying. But I couldn't shake the feeling that they were trying to make him into a "super face" at first. The crowd definitely wasn't solidly behind Punk. It was probably 60/40 at best in Cena's favor. And in the long run, if that doesn't change, it could be bad for Punk, and WWE could call him another failed experiment if they so chose. Also, the way Hunter/Punk came across all I could think was that it was happening how I would have expected that rumored script of Del Rio cashing in after a Hunter burial. Thank God that didn't happen.

I do think RAW has a different feel than it did just a month ago. Beth going over, good, long matches on the show, the multiple interview segments backstage for the final segment, King going into his old school persona for a second with one of his screeches. It just feels better overall, even if some segments were off. Which is to be expected, not every segment or show can be great, let alone amazing.

I do feel that they're starting to book more towards the type of fans who left, because they obviously know that there's more excitement over the product now in the main stream and otherwise than there has been since probably the Attitude Era.

I liked the closing segment. Not as much as the opening, but it was still solid. Cena has a pretty spot-on Laurinaitis impression and made me laugh. Honestly didn't mind Cena in this segment. Thought the dueling music was a nice touch, too. Just wish they had a mix ready to go for when they both put the titles up.

Overall, I'd say it was a very solid show and I enjoyed it. It accomplished a lot to set up SummerSlam, even if the Punk/Cena/Hunter stuff was obvious. It needed to be done to set it up. My only real gripe is that things feel a little rushed for the undercard, but obviously they needed to scramble for something for Del Rio. My guess would be that Kofi was supposed to get Ziggler, but with Del Rio out of the title picture they were forced to find something for him to get him on the show.

I won't even say it's poor long-term planning on WWE's part. They really had their hands tied with the Punk thing, so I don't really have that big of a problem with it. Just wish there was a week or two extra before SummerSlam.
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