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Old 10-08-2011, 03:08 PM   #1
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Considering the amount of blown spots over the years I've seen(large or small). Do the wrestlers talk about it backstage afterward and perhaps apoligise for messing up the plan? I guess it's an open topic depending on fed, match and the wrestlers involved but sometimes I can't help but think that the wrestlers must've thought:
'Wow, that looked like shit for a power move' or 'Wow, I was doing a highflying move and my opponent was supposed to roll away but he rolled right into it, yet I have to sell the miss)
I was watching an old WWF Raw is War when Undertaker kept coming out during matches and choke slammed the competitors. It was Val vs Dustin. Undertaker went to grab Dustin's throat for the slam but Dustin fell/sold as if he got punched in the face. It wasn't a huge fuck up (Dustin got his chokeslam right after Val got his.)
I dunno I'm just interested in things like that. The backstage post match.
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Old 10-08-2011, 03:15 PM   #2
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Yeah, why wouldn't they?

'Oh hey man, great match... sorry about that fuck-up though'...

'Hey, no worries'... / 'You better be your fucking prick!' etc...
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Old 10-08-2011, 03:28 PM   #3
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I dunno it just boggles me when they have a set script to follow. Maybe it's the on the fly rewrites that cause the confusion and may not lead to such one on one encounters backstage. Perhaps, when someone interferes in a match it wouldn't be a big deal because the they were focused on the in ring spots or whatever.
What does the script say? "After the 3rd near fall Undertaker will come out and kick your asses"? or "When that roll-up happens Undertaker will emerge during the count and immediately chokeslam Dustin. Then chokeslam Val Venis"?
How much leeway is involved?
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Old 10-08-2011, 03:46 PM   #4
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the run-ins are on cue...with a certain spot in the ring that gives the signal.
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Old 10-08-2011, 03:48 PM   #5
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so if they botch is one guy like "dude did u study last night or what?"
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Old 10-08-2011, 03:51 PM   #6
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Dustin, on reaction, thought it was a punch coming and sold it that way. If it was called to have Undertaker coming in giving chokeslams, he just forgot. It happens.
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It would be discussed backstage...like "Hey man, what happen right there" or "I thought you were coming in with a right punch" and everyone moves on.
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Old 10-08-2011, 04:05 PM   #8
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cool, figured as much just thought there might have been some stories regarding certain events
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Old 10-08-2011, 04:12 PM   #9
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so if they botch is one guy like "dude did u study last night or what?"
lol no, it tends to be laughed/passed off and then bitched about behind the guys back if he's a bit shit. And there is no "script" to study, most places simply tell you who is over and how (clean, run-in, DQ yadda yadda) and you work out the rest yourself with the other guy. Some like to go over in huge detail, some like to call most things in the ring, some like to lay out the main points and call the rest on the fly etc etc. Depending on who it is, when there's a noticeable fuck up, a lot of the "less experienced" guys will go back and repeat the exact same spot/do it properly, which tends to look pretty dumb for the audience. Same thing kind of applies to WWE only on a much larger scale depending on who's working there and whether they're on live TV or taped. Guys like Cena, Orton etc will know the finish, the "objective" (what they're trying to get over) and any other "special" bits (run-ins etc) and that's it. A lot of the lower card, especially inexperienced guys with upcoming TV matches will go to the ring with an agent before the doors open and literally go through a match spot by spot in slow motion. Lots of "small time" guys do this also except minus a road agent obv, there's pretty much always guys in the ring once it's setup until the doors open. But outside of RAW or Smackdown stories/promos etc, there's no actual script except for a simple running order.
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Old 10-08-2011, 04:22 PM   #11
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there is a good example of this on you tube. Randy Orton is in a match with Kofi Kingston, im not sure what exactly happens in the video, either Kofi didnt take the RKO correctly, or Randy was setting up for a punt and Kofi kept getting up because he forgot the spot. Either way Randy is pissed, and starts screaming STUPID! STUPID! and Kofi. Ill see if i can find the video.
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everybody here knows what you're talking about, it's a "contentious" point that's been discussed quite a bit
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Old 10-08-2011, 04:28 PM   #13
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ha, i probably should have figured. my bad.
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Old 10-08-2011, 04:34 PM   #14
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lol you don't need to put my bad, you didn't know, I just don't think you'd have gotten much of a response
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I fucked up a huge move in a match once. Pretty lame story following if anyone is interested:

Was meant to take a move where I pretty much jump up and the guy flips me backwards, so I land on my front. We mis-timed, I jumped and kinda fell awkwardly on my feet realizing we'd fucked up. I tried to cover it up by making it look like I blocked the move and then tried to roll-up my opponent. He's one of those 'not-very-well-trained' guys working for THAT company, that couldn't figure out what I was doing, despite the fact I was clearing try to come off to the crowd as being one-step ahead of him and blocking it. Instead he tried the move again, which I dead-weighted him on, and it ended up looking like shit. Similar to most of the match.

But in keeping with the topic of this thread... nothing was actually said about it after the match.
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Old 10-08-2011, 05:21 PM   #16
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I could imagine with some of the "nicer" people in the business, it would have been like "its ok bro, we all mess up" kind of thing. Wouldnt want to be in the position where I fucked up a spot for Scott Steiner, or JBL or some shit. lol.
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there is a good example of this on you tube. Randy Orton is in a match with Kofi Kingston, im not sure what exactly happens in the video, either Kofi didnt take the RKO correctly, or Randy was setting up for a punt and Kofi kept getting up because he forgot the spot. Either way Randy is pissed, and starts screaming STUPID! STUPID! and Kofi. Ill see if i can find the video.
and that was the end of kofis push
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