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Old 05-25-2012, 11:04 AM   #41
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Shawn Michaels stuck the canadian flag up his nose, dropped it down his pants, and fellated it on PPV.

Chris Jericho stomps on a flag. Indefinitely suspended.

Bit of double standards, but HBK got away with a lot back in the day.
It's not double standards if the business has changed (it has) or the locale is taken into account (it has to be) or this is an intentional on-air debacle (duh)

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How many months until the next "Mysterious video"?
Oh shit. Does that mean when it does air, we're going to be subjected to six more months of Noid/SammyG whining "why didn't Jericho show up tonight! We were promised Jericho (Even though we weren't and it was all assumed and we totally hyped ourselves up, we will blame WWE for lying to us!!!)!"
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Shawn Michaels stuck the canadian flag up his nose, dropped it down his pants, and fellated it on PPV.

Chris Jericho stomps on a flag. Indefinitely suspended.

Bit of double standards, but HBK got away with a lot back in the day.
Don't forget about JBL goose-stepping in Germany shortly before his gimmick change and multiple title runs.
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:13 AM   #43
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I guess it is different everywhere. If Kurt Angle were to disrespect the Indian flag in India, the crowd would have stormed in and beat the shit out of him. It has been only 64 years since Independence and we hold the flag in high regards.
India was so much better under British rule. Bring back the Raj!
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Old 05-25-2012, 12:33 PM   #44
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Yeah this is no work, there is no upside to the angle, why work it? Jericho messed up and got told so by the police and then had to apologize before he got locked up in a Brazilian prison, where believe me, they love the back door adventures.

As far as him being suspended, it could work out in his favor as far as Fozzy but I doubt this is a planned incident and WWE has suspended him to leave a good taste in the mouths of whomever will decide to let WWE back into Brazil arena's in the future.

Just a difference of culture that's all.
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Old 05-25-2012, 12:44 PM   #45
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I live in Brazil and it didn´t even enter my head that this was a work....it is completely beliavable, and what Fignuts said is dead on, Brazil is a South American country that is fiercely patriotic....so much so that ANY sport which has a Brazilian doing well becomes popular overnight, only to disappear when said Brazilian is not doing well...

This is a country where businesses close for World Cup games, everything is about their country and these fans are not used to being "worked"...Jericho should have realised this and WWE could well be pissed. THis could effect their standing here in the country too...
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Old 05-25-2012, 12:57 PM   #46
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The suspension isn't a work, though he was probably on his way out after Orton anyway so he misses one PPV payday, MAYBE two. If I recall correctly, Fozzy has a show on the night of SummerSlam so he's not going to be with WWE then regardless.

My question is, though, whose idea was this? Did Jericho and Punk devise it? Did Jericho see the flag and think "I'll get some heat and snatch it from him"? Or was it a planned angle?

If it was a planned angle, this would be putting the blame on the wrong person.
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I don't know, I would think that a smart guy like Chris and multi-million company would make sure everything is cool before doing it. This being 'real' is hard to buy. They could be using the internet and media to their avantage.

If it's real, they just did it to show Brazil that there were consequences and the company took responsibility.
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you're talking like a grand amount of planning is required for a heel to do a very normal and usually throwaway thing for a heel thing to do. "this being real" isn't close to being hard to buy. What advantage is gained from this? It'd give Jericho a line for a promo, that's about it.
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Don't forget about JBL goose-stepping in Germany shortly before his gimmick change and multiple title runs.
It was after the gimmick change, and only a couple of weeks before his only WWE Title reign.
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Shawn Michaels posted this on Twitter...

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Wow, waking up to find twitter blaming me for an apparent suspension of @IAmJericho. Seems to me I’d blame the horrific PC world we’ve allowed ourselves to be caught up in where you can’t “act” & have it called “acting.” BS!! I’ll stand behind @IAmJericho any day of the week & twice on Sunday…what’s the big “E” stand for in WWE anyway!!. I honestly don’t see how many of you make it w/that much anger in your life…seems exhausting & a colossal waste of time!! See, that’s all I’ve got & I’m already tired!! Time to workout & hit my day. Y’all have a wonderful day!! :-)
I'm glad HBK doesn't have to be a prisoner to WWE's PR. Look at me agreeing with that Jesus freak on a social issue.
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Old 05-25-2012, 01:10 PM   #51
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Different countries like Brazil and Mexico have severe laws against desecrating their flag... You will never see that in Lucha Libre... You can't even put a sticker of the Mexican Flag on a guitar without possible arrest...

That being said, even if it wasn't a work, great timing for his tour... As it was stated above...
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don't blame WWE at all for how they've handled it, Brazil is a huge economy nowadays
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Old 05-25-2012, 01:12 PM   #53
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and can we stop the tour talk as well, he'd have missed like a week of TV tapings at most for it, it's about 3 shows. If that even given the gigs are on a Wednesday, Thursday and either a Friday, Saturday or Sunday at Download
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How the fuck could this possibly be a work?

Why in fuck sake would WWE risk getting Jericho arrested, and potentially lose a big market, just to take Jericho off TV, when there are hundreds of other more sensible ways to do it?

Also, shawn michaels is being a bit ignorant there.
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Old 05-25-2012, 01:24 PM   #55
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I'm as sick of the overly sensitive PC reactions as anyone, but there still has to be a limit to what you can and can't do.

Personally, like Michaels, I don't have a big problem with the american flag being disrespected for entertainment purposes, but I can surely empathize and understand that other countries feel differently.

It's not PC, it's common sense HBGAY.

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Old 05-25-2012, 01:28 PM   #56
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HBK is totally right on this Fignuts. If anyone was actually offended by this then they need to go crawl under a rock and rot. Learn to laugh already.
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Old 05-25-2012, 01:29 PM   #57
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I don't think this was intended as a work. I think Jericho did it, got hit in a shit storm, and WWE is taking advantage of it. His leaving looks legit now. I think this is one of those instances where a shoot turns into a work, like the Edge/Matt Hardy angle.
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I don't think this was intended as a work. I think Jericho did it, got hit in a shit storm, and WWE is taking advantage of it. His leaving looks legit now. I think this is one of those instances where a shoot turns into a work, like the Edge/Matt Hardy angle.
This is possible. No way this is a full on work. WWE isn't that stupid to do something like this just for a storyline.
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Definitely. Suspend him for a bit and have him apologize to give off the idea that the company sympathizes with them and all is well. I'm sure Jericho's not pissed at the company right now.

I hate the fact that wrestling being a "fake sport" can be used to denigrate it... but when it comes to a situation like this, it can't be treated like any play, movie or other scripted form of entertainment.
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I'm as sick of the overly sensitive PC reactions as anyone, but there still has to be a limit to what you can and can't do.

Personally, like Michaels, I don't have a big problem with the american flag being disrespected for entertainment purposes, but I can surely empathize and understand that other countries feel differently.

It's not PC, it's common sense HBGAY.

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Nope... it's pretty overly PC.

It's a flag... being kicked... by a man playing a character to draw the ire of the crowd.
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And I won't even get into how silly the sacredness of flags are in the first place.
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this reminds me of the old time heels where fans waited outside to kick there asses fred blasie had some good storys at getting shoot at.
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Overall a pretty stupid thing Jericho did but in terms of wrestling he pulled off a great heel move since it got the crowd hating him.

Also seems to be part of the usual routine of face waves the flag while heel tries to grab the flag or taunt it unlike the really random time of Punk using a homophobic slur against a fan or JBL goosestepping in Germany.
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I don't think this was intended as a work. I think Jericho did it, got hit in a shit storm, and WWE is taking advantage of it. His leaving looks legit now. I think this is one of those instances where a shoot turns into a work, like the Edge/Matt Hardy angle.
I am going with this.
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Old 05-25-2012, 02:57 PM   #66
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Overall a pretty stupid thing Jericho did but in terms of wrestling he pulled off a great heel move since it got the crowd hating him.

Also seems to be part of the usual routine of face waves the flag while heel tries to grab the flag or taunt it unlike the really random time of Punk using a homophobic slur against a fan or JBL goosestepping in Germany.
Should have made JBL's finisher a Goosestepping Big Boot.
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Really interested if they just throw Orton into the title match with Sheamus and Del Rio or if they have someone else as a backup plan for him to feud with.
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At least it was not a wellness policy violation.
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At least it was not a wellness policy violation.
It's really a coverup for his steroid use.



It'd actually be hilarious if they started issuing behavior violations with suspensions.
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WWE Superstar Chris Jericho has been suspended for 30 days due to an irresponsible act of denigrating the Brazilian flag at a WWE live event in São Paulo on May 24.
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His last two stints in the WWE have been very lackluster
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Pretty coincidental since he's leaving to tour with Fozzy anyways.... I assume this was said already, but I'm lazy and not reading any posts
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The HBK feud was one of the best feuds in recent memory. Could have and should have gone a year all the way up to WrestleMania. It makes up for whatever shit he did afterwards.
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The HBK feud was one of the best feuds in recent memory. Could have and should have gone a year all the way up to WrestleMania. It makes up for whatever shit he did afterwards.
Wasn't that stint before his last two?
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Wasn't that stint before his last two?
Nope, it was all during his second stint. His three stints have been:

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I do hope they can somehow use this in a storyline, maybe not showing the actual footage on-air, but they could definitely reference it, maybe it was Jericho's way of dodging Orton or something silly.

Normally suspensions are given for wellness violations, and never get mentioned on-air. This is entirely different and could be a huge asset to a storyline.
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Wow, I didn't realize his second stint was that long
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Yeah I didn't know that either(about his 2nd stinit). It had some good parts though. His last run overall hasn't been great. At best it's been ok.

I think this is legit. I def think the Flag thing in Brazil is a shoot if anything I question the suspension a little.

I'm saying 80% it's a all a shoot.
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:35 PM   #79
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And I won't even get into how silly the sacredness of flags are in the first place.
Again, just because you, and likely many other americans feel that the flag shouldn't be considered sacred, does not mean another country with a completely different history and culture should feel the same.

If you don't understand why they get so angry, that's fine. But I wouldn't say it's too PC unless I've lived in that country, and understand the culture.
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