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Old 11-17-2012, 04:31 PM   #1
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I loved it when The Nexus ruined everything


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Old 11-17-2012, 05:09 PM   #2
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:24 PM   #3
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And it was all downhill from there...
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:46 PM   #4
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:00 PM   #5
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The Nexus was great. I wonder how different it would have been if Daniel Bryan had turned on Cena at SummerSlam and rejoined Nexus...

Or if Darren Young had been the one to have cost Cena his match with Wade Barrett at Hell in a Cell, building on the rivarly Young and Cena could have developed, and restoring Barrett's faith in him as a valued member to Nexus...

Or if Barrett had lost his WWE Title match to Orton, only after Cena's honour completely overtook him, he got a smirk on his face and completely DESTROYED Barrett instead of hitting him with a clothesline he looked like he didn't even really mean to do, and relished in the fact that he went out with a bang and never let Wade Barrett control him...

Or if an enraged Barrett demanded that Cena face him at Tables, Ladders & Chairs, but Cena not being obligated to because of his contract release, and Barrett offered Cena his freedom and a full return if he agreed to Barrett's "No DQ" terms. And what if Barrett won?
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:23 PM   #6
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The Nexus was great for a few weeks. Then WWE did it's typical clusterfuck booking and they all ended up looking like shit and it did little to help anyone's career.
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It should be noted that almost everyone in the group is still featured on RAW quite regularly.
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:37 PM   #8
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Very little of that has to do with the fact that they were in Nexus. Ryback is basically not even the same person... Slater became a jobber for a while, barely on TV and then was repackaged... Tarver's gone... Gabriel is a high flying jobber and part-time tag team jobber... Otunga is Jennifer Hudon's husband and gets airtime because of a real-life based lawyer gimmick that is in no way what he was as a member of the Nexus... Young is where he is mainly because he was in NXT:Redemption and formed a tag team there which coincided with WWE's need to call up a tag team to be part of the main roster...
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:43 PM   #9
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Remember when they literally murdered The Undertaker, arguably the most over guy on the roster, via burying him alive?

That probably could have been a big deal for some of them if WWE didn't decide "Meh, moving on."
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:13 PM   #10
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David Otunga still knows the real reason they attacked The Undertaker. One day when you least suspect it, he will reveal the reason.
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:14 PM   #11
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:15 PM   #12
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(Would have also accepted "He did it for The Rock")
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:15 AM   #13
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Nah, neither of those.

He will, however, will have "secret" video footage from GTV that will explain why.
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:43 AM   #14
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Or if Darren Young had been the one to have cost Cena his match with Wade Barrett at Hell in a Cell, building on the rivarly Young and Cena could have developed, and restoring Barrett's faith in him as a valued member to Nexus...
Would have been interesting if they kept playing up the physical similarities of he and Cena instead of a one-off joke. Have him slowly "replace" Cena. Darren starts to use his moveset, dress like him, wear Nexus inspired "Cena-esque" shirts, come out to "my time is now"... basically, have him and John in the Sin Cara vs Sin Cara angle even before they arrived.
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Sin Cara vs Sin Cara angle even before they arrived.
Cena blanco vs Cena negro
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Would have been interesting if they kept playing up the physical similarities of he and Cena instead of a one-off joke. Have him slowly "replace" Cena. Darren starts to use his moveset, dress like him, wear Nexus inspired "Cena-esque" shirts, come out to "my time is now"... basically, have him and John in the Sin Cara vs Sin Cara angle even before they arrived.
I mean, sure, they called him Sin Cara Negro, but I feel like it probably wouldn't have been okay to call Darren Young "John Cena Negro"
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Remember when they literally murdered The Undertaker, arguably the most over guy on the roster, via burying him alive?

That probably could have been a big deal for some of them if WWE didn't decide "Meh, moving on."
Or when it looked like Vince McMahon was behind them, taking him out as well.

It was all part of the bigger picture... Which we frustratingly never got to see.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:48 AM   #18
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fortunately for me I still live in a fantasy world where Michael Tarver is WWE champion and the Nexus is still together under his dominance
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:24 AM   #19
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Very little of that has to do with the fact that they were in Nexus. Ryback is basically not even the same person... Slater became a jobber for a while, barely on TV and then was repackaged... Tarver's gone... Gabriel is a high flying jobber and part-time tag team jobber... Otunga is Jennifer Hudon's husband and gets airtime because of a real-life based lawyer gimmick that is in no way what he was as a member of the Nexus... Young is where he is mainly because he was in NXT:Redemption and formed a tag team there which coincided with WWE's need to call up a tag team to be part of the main roster...
Do you know that for sure? Let's look at how well the guys from NXT Season 2 are doing...

OK, well that settles that!
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:26 AM   #20
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The big picture was clearly Wade Barrett taking on The Undertaker at WrestleMania and breaking the most sacred thing in WWE. But there was just no convincing anyone that Triple H vs. Undertaker would not have been the better match (unfortunately). It's why Wade Barrett and The Corre were reduced to a 2:00 "We're here!" moment.
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Lol at Nexus and Kane burying Undertaker alive just for Undertaker to come back and challenge Triple H for some reason and completely forgot about his attempted murder.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:03 AM   #22
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Very little of that has to do with the fact that they were in Nexus. Ryback is basically not even the same person... Slater became a jobber for a while, barely on TV and then was repackaged... Tarver's gone... Gabriel is a high flying jobber and part-time tag team jobber... Otunga is Jennifer Hudon's husband and gets airtime because of a real-life based lawyer gimmick that is in no way what he was as a member of the Nexus... Young is where he is mainly because he was in NXT:Redemption and formed a tag team there which coincided with WWE's need to call up a tag team to be part of the main roster...
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It should be noted that almost everyone in the group is still featured on RAW quite regularly.
Still featured on RAW quite regularly........ in what fashion.

To some the fact they are featured is simply enough. But I think what WWF fan was getting at is that they were THE attraction for quite a while, and now, outside of Ryback they are all pretty much jobbers who don't matter.

WWF Fan is spot on, yet again
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It should be noted that almost everyone in the group is still featured on RAW quite regularly.
This.

Nexus was actually pretty good. I think it also caught a lot of people off guard when Barret came back from injury and people chanted, "We want Nexus."

Most great stables have a second/ third run.

Given what happened to Ryback last night, I don't think it would be a completely bad idea to see CM Punk/Heyman bring back Nexus.

Even if it allows more guys to get TV time by being "henchmen", you atleast give those guys TV time and allow them to develop personalities.
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This.

Nexus was actually pretty good. I think it also caught a lot of people off guard when Barret came back from injury and people chanted, "We want Nexus."

Most great stables have a second/ third run.

Given what happened to Ryback last night, I don't think it would be a completely bad idea to see CM Punk/Heyman bring back Nexus.

Even if it allows more guys to get TV time by being "henchmen", you atleast give those guys TV time and allow them to develop personalities.
It was a hot angle at firwst with ALOT of talent. That first Season of NXT they pushed in too many talented developmental guys. Like season 2 was very weak as they burned through their talent.
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Do you know that for sure? Let's look at how well the guys from NXT Season 2 are doing...

OK, well that settles that!
lol. Please explain to me the link between being in the Nexus and it's member's current "pushes" that would signify Nexus as a vital part of it. Do I "know for sure" that Ryback was completely repackaged as a character that specifically requires you to forget he was ever even IN the fucking stable!?! YES! Do I "know for sure" that Michael Tarver is no longer with the company? YES! Do I "know for sure" that Heath Slater spent a shitload of time doing nothing and going back to square one before being jobbed out to old guys and having THAT TV time somewhat directly lead to him forming a new stable. YES! Do I "know for sure" that Darren Young's current role on Raw is DIRECTLY because he was brought in as part of a tag team that he formed on NXT:REDEMPTION during the time WWE was re-vitalizing the tag division? YES!
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The big picture was clearly Wade Barrett taking on The Undertaker at WrestleMania and breaking the most sacred thing in WWE. But there was just no convincing anyone that Triple H vs. Undertaker would not have been the better match (unfortunately).
CLEARLY!? Do you know that for sure? Let's look at WWE's recent track record of doing things just to get people talking but really having to endgame in mind.

OK, well that settles that!
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Or when it looked like Vince McMahon was behind them, taking him out as well.

It was all part of the bigger picture... Which we frustratingly never got to see.
lol. Forgot about that.

THEY PUT VINCE MCMAHON IN A FUCKING COMA!!!

You almost have to TRY not to retain the heat from burying the Undertaker alive and nearly beating Vince McMahon to death. lol
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lol. Please explain to me the link between being in the Nexus and it's member's current "pushes" that would signify Nexus as a vital part of it. Do I "know for sure" that Ryback was completely repackaged as a character that specifically requires you to forget he was ever even IN the fucking stable!?! YES! Do I "know for sure" that Michael Tarver is no longer with the company? YES! Do I "know for sure" that Heath Slater spent a shitload of time doing nothing and going back to square one before being jobbed out to old guys and having THAT TV time somewhat directly lead to him forming a new stable. YES! Do I "know for sure" that Darren Young's current role on Raw is DIRECTLY because he was brought in as part of a tag team that he formed on NXT:REDEMPTION during the time WWE was re-vitalizing the tag division? YES!
YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!

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*1 --- 2 ---*

to be continued when Noid comes out of his hole for the kickout OR the 3!!
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an tarver was screwed, i liked him as a heel, but not to be.
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This.
Most great stables have a second/ third run.

Given what happened to Ryback last night, I don't think it would be a completely bad idea to see CM Punk/Heyman bring back Nexus.
i kind of want to go back to the hidden leader angle and have the real orchestrator eventually be revealed as sara del rey.

it's awesome because i thought of it.
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Still featured on RAW quite regularly........ in what fashion.

To some the fact they are featured is simply enough. But I think what WWF fan was getting at is that they were THE attraction for quite a while, and now, outside of Ryback they are all pretty much jobbers who don't matter.

WWF Fan is spot on, yet again
Darren Young? Not a jobber.

Daniel Bryan? Not a jobber.

Wade Barrett? Not a jobber.

David Otunga? Being used to put over babyfaces that matter, but still not a jobber.

Heath Slater? Seems to win far more than he loses these days.

Ryback? Not a jobber.

Justin Gabriel? Not a jobber, although inconsistently booked.

Michael Tarver? Only one unemployed.

I'm not saying that this is because the Nexus was so successful. Just pointing out that the talent that were involved have generally done quite well for themselves. As opposed to, say, any other season of NXT.
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lol. Please explain to me the link between being in the Nexus and it's member's current "pushes" that would signify Nexus as a vital part of it. Do I "know for sure" that Ryback was completely repackaged as a character that specifically requires you to forget he was ever even IN the fucking stable!?! YES! Do I "know for sure" that Michael Tarver is no longer with the company? YES! Do I "know for sure" that Heath Slater spent a shitload of time doing nothing and going back to square one before being jobbed out to old guys and having THAT TV time somewhat directly lead to him forming a new stable. YES! Do I "know for sure" that Darren Young's current role on Raw is DIRECTLY because he was brought in as part of a tag team that he formed on NXT:REDEMPTION during the time WWE was re-vitalizing the tag division? YES!
The link between the Nexus and their current pushes? The fact that the guys were in the group and are now enjoying success is a pretty good point.

I wasn't saying "Nexus is responsible for these guys' success," I was saying that it's kind of interesting that 7/8 of the original group are guys that you would consider pretty solidified onto the main roster at this point. A lot goes into that:

* The talent themselves, how hard they have worked, and what they bring to the table.

* That over the past three years (and longer, when you consider that these were some of the stand-outs that their peers were striving to meet in FCW), these respective talents have been paying their dues, working on their craft and working with some of the top names of the business -- much of that happening when they were a part of Nexus.

* And yes, that they were part of one of the hottest angles of all-time helps, too.

None of that is any guarantee of success -- but if you think that those six months spent in one of the most interesting factions in WWE history has not helped these guys one bit -- and actually hindered their careers in some cases -- you're nuts.

Some of the best moments of Heath Slater's life would have come when he was getting his ass kicked by the legends. You call it "jobbing out to old guys," but I don't think you really understand how much Slater's stock went up through that.
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And it definitely did sound like you were crediting Nexus for them being on the roster now. Every single one of them (outside Barrett maybe) required a change after the Nexus just to get noticed. Almost like being part of Nexus was a hindrance. None of them "got over" because of the Nexus (again, with Barrett probably being the exception). When you look at any of them now, tell me you actually think "Good thing this guy was in the Nexus! He's got a push now!" as opposed to "Holy fuck, how ridiculous is it to think that this guy main evented SummerSlam one year!?"

If you think the former, you're nuts. If you think the latter, that's probably a pretty big sign that Nexus didn't really do jack shit to help these guys in the long term.
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ONE OF THE HOTTEST ANGLES OF ALL TIME!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
The Nexus had people buzzing like crazy. It was easily the hottest angle of 2010, and probably the hottest for years before that.
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