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Old 11-14-2015, 09:09 PM   #481
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It might have been more beneficial to have one of the Wyatt Family members turn face on RAW -- giving Wyatt a reason to be caught off-guard -- and build to a 3 vs. 3 match at Survivor Series. Just spit-balling here.

Luke Harper would have been my pick. He's got the most ring skill and star potential on his own. Rowan and Strowman need the Family at this point.
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Old 11-14-2015, 09:10 PM   #482
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Is your claim that in the heyday of WWE a babyface never got over physically on a heel 2 weeks before the PPV? Usually the standard MO is to have the heels go over the final TV before the PPV. Two weeks out is a long time.

This is like saying Wrestlemania 15 was ruined when Austin did the beer truck gimmick on Rock and the McMahons. But that was The Attitude Era, so I guess somehow it was good then.
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Old 11-14-2015, 09:14 PM   #483
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I guess the thinking behind what they did on RAW is this:

* The Undertaker is in England, the crowd will go bonkers.

* Taker will sell Survivor Series on his own.

* The Wyatt Family can say they were surprised and people will buy it.

* It's Taker, guys.

I don't think what they did is going to kill the program dead. I mean, the stuff with the soul-absorbing was hard to come back from in a few weeks anyway. But at a time where the WWE is hurting for stars, blowing the heat off here when it could have been coupled with the tournament finals as a major selling point to Survivor Series has left everything feel sterile.

I guess this is the Network era though, and the WWE don't really need to sell PPVs like they used to.
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Old 11-14-2015, 09:40 PM   #484
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It might have been more beneficial to have one of the Wyatt Family members turn face on RAW -- giving Wyatt a reason to be caught off-guard -- and build to a 3 vs. 3 match at Survivor Series. Just spit-balling here.

Luke Harper would have been my pick. He's got the most ring skill and star potential on his own. Rowan and Strowman need the Family at this point.
That would have been great. Would have explained how Taker and Kane got away and evened up the odds for a match at Survivor Series. Could still happen when Bray announces who will face Taker and Kane though.
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Old 11-14-2015, 10:52 PM   #485
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Urban dictionary for Cynick, sounds like something from a Curtis post

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Old 11-15-2015, 01:45 AM   #487
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I'm now actually thinking that it might be an interesting move to turn Braun Strowman face. I'm not sold on the guy, and I'm not sure just how great his chops are, but there's still something "off" about his presence within The Wyatt Family. Erick Rowan turning face was done and didn't really garner any momentum, and Luke Harper is such an integral part of the ring work for the group. Strowman, on the other hand, seems to jar up their dynamic with the constant soft-footing around him.

At Survivor Series, have the team be Strowman & Harper against The Undertaker & Kane. Taker wins the match with a Tombstone on Harper and on RAW, Bray Wyatt is disappointed with his family. They point the finger at Strowman, with it being stated that there's a reason he's "The Black Sheep." They beat him down, with Strowman showing some fire back, but he eventually gets stopped and hit with Sister Abigail.

The next week, Strowman vows revenge against Bray Wyatt, with the one thing he learnt from The Family being his true potential as a monster. He wants to pledge his allegiance to The Brothers of Destruction, so that they can go against The Wyatt Family at TLC. Strowman, Taker & Kane go over there, and Wyatt sets his sights on the Royal Rumble and his "absolution." Braun doesn't get into the Rumble Match, instead fighting Harper in some sort of brawl earlier in the show. Strowman wins that match (with Harper leading him through it), and Wyatt and Rowan work the Rumble and have a good time tossing out mid-carders. Cue Strowman coming out, fighting Rowan and Wyatt, tossing both over even though he's not in the Rumble Match.

It might suck, but it might also entertain the kiddies who start seeing Strowman as the monster they can cheer. Slightly tweak his look and give him cool music. You're not looking to put the title on him anytime soon or anything, but Wyatt, Harper & Rowan vs. Strowman & Kane, or something, could be an undercard match at WrestleMania, if you've got Undertaker and Cena fighting higher up.
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Old 11-15-2015, 06:39 AM   #488
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Noid, I'm nearly always on board with you. But not this time.

Strowman is not established or interesting enough right now. He's also very, very green. And a face turn only weeks after his debut will set him on the path to the Big Show/Kane/Henry style constant rotating turns.
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Old 11-15-2015, 08:04 PM   #489
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That's fair enough. I think as a face it will make what he does a little more interesting than it currently is, and it will allow heels to lead him through the matches.
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Old 11-15-2015, 08:16 PM   #490
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I'm now actually thinking that it might be an interesting move to turn Braun Strowman face. I'm not sold on the guy, and I'm not sure just how great his chops are, but there's still something "off" about his presence within The Wyatt Family. Erick Rowan turning face was done and didn't really garner any momentum, and Luke Harper is such an integral part of the ring work for the group. Strowman, on the other hand, seems to jar up their dynamic with the constant soft-footing around him.

At Survivor Series, have the team be Strowman & Harper against The Undertaker & Kane. Taker wins the match with a Tombstone on Harper and on RAW, Bray Wyatt is disappointed with his family. They point the finger at Strowman, with it being stated that there's a reason he's "The Black Sheep." They beat him down, with Strowman showing some fire back, but he eventually gets stopped and hit with Sister Abigail.

The next week, Strowman vows revenge against Bray Wyatt, with the one thing he learnt from The Family being his true potential as a monster. He wants to pledge his allegiance to The Brothers of Destruction, so that they can go against The Wyatt Family at TLC. Strowman, Taker & Kane go over there, and Wyatt sets his sights on the Royal Rumble and his "absolution." Braun doesn't get into the Rumble Match, instead fighting Harper in some sort of brawl earlier in the show. Strowman wins that match (with Harper leading him through it), and Wyatt and Rowan work the Rumble and have a good time tossing out mid-carders. Cue Strowman coming out, fighting Rowan and Wyatt, tossing both over even though he's not in the Rumble Match.

It might suck, but it might also entertain the kiddies who start seeing Strowman as the monster they can cheer. Slightly tweak his look and give him cool music. You're not looking to put the title on him anytime soon or anything, but Wyatt, Harper & Rowan vs. Strowman & Kane, or something, could be an undercard match at WrestleMania, if you've got Undertaker and Cena fighting higher up.
I love you Noid but no. The Family get buried enough. You might as well as disband The Family at that point.
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