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Old 07-27-2004, 07:36 PM   #1
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Brock Lesnar signs with the Vikings
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The Vikings are have announced the signing of former World Wrestling Entertainment personality Brock Lesnar.

The Vikings signed World Wrestling Entertainment personality turned defensive lineman Brock Lesnar.

Lesnar worked out for the Vikings earlier this spring, but his workout left team officials unimpressed. Head coach Mike Tice said a motorcycle accident before that workout limited Lesnar's effectiveness.

His second workout with the team went better today, and the Vikings signed him. Lesnar is believed to have signed off on a waiver on the contract if his groin injury resurfaces.

Lesnar would be tabbed for the practice squad this year and possibly NFL Europe next spring if he continues to show progress in his football techniques.

Ben Nauman was released.

The Vikings also signed guard Tam Hopkins, a second-year player from Ohio State and released defensive tackle Jeff Womble to make room for Hopkins.
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Old 07-27-2004, 07:43 PM   #2
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Old 07-27-2004, 07:49 PM   #3
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Doesn't it say defensive lineman?
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Old 07-27-2004, 07:50 PM   #4
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Old 07-27-2004, 08:05 PM   #5
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He will be stuck going from practice squad to NFL Europe for a couple years. If he sticks with it maybe he will crack the depth chart. But until then I doubt he does anything.
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Old 07-27-2004, 08:22 PM   #6
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Did he play in high school? I assume he didn't in college since he focused on wrestling.

The plays and studying may prove to be too much for him to overcome even w/ his physical gift/size.
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Old 07-27-2004, 11:21 PM   #7
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He would probably make it at defensive end. Good for him for getting a minor contract, hopefully people will continute to doubt him to give him some extra motivation. That groin injury will probably resurface though , allowing him to make run-in at the RAW mainevent the following night.
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Old 07-27-2004, 11:44 PM   #8
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Congrats to Brock. I'm glad he is atleast getting a chance. If he makes the team that would be cool, if not, i wouldn't mind seeing him back in the WWE.
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Old 07-28-2004, 12:11 AM   #9
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1) He wont make the team

or

2) Practice Squad

He will not suit up for an actual game this year.
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Old 07-28-2004, 03:56 AM   #10
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I highly doubt he makes it. There is plenty of guys around his size in the NFL with better football IQs then him who haven't made it
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Old 07-28-2004, 04:50 AM   #11
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....

Bean is now gonna testify that this places the vikes as the perennial NFC champs.
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Old 07-28-2004, 12:56 PM   #12
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lol now every 25-30 year old who's is shape will be calling NFL teams begging for a tryout.
 
Old 07-28-2004, 02:31 PM   #13
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1) He wont make the team

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2) Practice Squad

He will not suit up for an actual game this year.
I bet you if the Iggles signed him, he would start, be their star DE and have 25 sacks.
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Old 07-28-2004, 07:22 PM   #15
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I bet you if the Iggles signed him, he would start, be their star DE and have 25 sacks.
Plus they would be guaranteed to win the Super Bowl.
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Old 07-28-2004, 11:47 PM   #16
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Plus they would be guaranteed to win the Super Bowl.


They already are.

Their track record speaks for itself.
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1) He wont make the team

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Even HE knows that. You're not saying anything new. He has to learn the position before he can play in the NFL. He will be the first person to tell you that he's a long way's off from playing.

The thing about it is, though, that he can take two years preparing, have up to 5 good years in the NFL, and still go back to the WWE for a 10 year career AT LEAST.

That's why football should come first -- Ric Flair is like 60, but in the NFL, 30 is the cut-off, and anything over that is "over the hill."
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Old 07-28-2004, 11:52 PM   #18
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....

Bean is now gonna testify that this places the vikes as the perennial NFC champs.
I think the Vikings' salary cap management SHOULD place them as the perennial NFC champs, since the Packers will be a 4-win team without Favre, and the Vikings have the tools to win without Culpepper.

I'm not saying that's true. I'm just saying it should be true.

Vikings always find a way to prove me wrong. :dunno:
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Old 07-28-2004, 11:54 PM   #19
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Media circus. I bet you anything that Red McCombs had a say in signing Brock. I can almost guarantee that despite being on the practice squad, there will be a Lesnar #9(whatever) jersey.

BTW, he's listed at DT. Probably the fastest DT in the history of the world. And I think he can contribute at DT, because there is less technique involved in collapsing the pocket.

And this year, he'd do in a pinch just running down on kickoffs at the VERY least.
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lol now every 25-30 year old who's is shape will be calling NFL teams begging for a tryout.
Brock Lesnar is merely "in shape?"

Check out his workout numbers. They're unheard of for someone of his size. And the kicker is, he had several injuries at the time.
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Old 07-29-2004, 12:38 AM   #21
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Media circus. I bet you anything that Red McCombs had a say in signing Brock. I can almost guarantee that despite being on the practice squad, there will be a Lesnar #9(whatever) jersey.

BTW, he's listed at DT. Probably the fastest DT in the history of the world. And I think he can contribute at DT, because there is less technique involved in collapsing the pocket.

And this year, he'd do in a pinch just running down on kickoffs at the VERY least.

Lol, no kidding. I would put him on the special teams for starters, he'd be like one of the first ones to make the tackle. He can be the Billy Bates of the Vikings.
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Old 07-29-2004, 12:49 AM   #22
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My favorite players are the nutjobs on special teams.

Chris Walsh was a short, slow white wide receiver, but he was our special teams ace, and I'll be damned if he wasn't the craziest player I've ever seen.

In the late 90s, Walsh caught a pass in triple coverage, got hit so hard he was knocked unconscious, breaking his jaw.

He held onto the ball.



I wish the Vikings would have kept him around He got too slow and injury-prone for special teams though.

Moe Williams was a stud on special teams as well. Now he's only the BEST HB IN THE LEAGUE.
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Old 07-29-2004, 04:03 AM   #23
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Moe Williams was a stud on special teams as well. Now he's only the BEST HB IN THE LEAGUE.
Moe Williams? Best HB in the league?

He's not even the best HB in his division...

Really, stop hanging out w/ Rickey Williams, clearly he's giving you the cheap stuff to smoke...
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Old 07-29-2004, 02:37 PM   #24
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Moe Williams? Best HB in the league?

He's not even the best HB in his division...

Really, stop hanging out w/ Rickey Williams, clearly he's giving you the cheap stuff to smoke...


Oh man. You took me seriously.

You ******, I know he's not the best. But he's damn good. Did you ever see him catch a screen pass?

While Michael Bennett gets one block and he's gone, Moe Williams just sits behind his blockers and dodges and gets 20 yards despite 4.7 speed. It's a thing of beauty. It's a really, really long play, and you think they fucked it up... but he just keeps going. He's like LeRoy Hoard from '98, except BETTER.

Plus, I mean, he's the man.

By far the best 3rd-string HB in the NFL.
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Oh and "not the best HB in his division" might be giving him too much credit. We have a pro-bowler in Bennett and a potential pro bowler in SOD, so Moe is technically not the best HB on his team. Or second-best.

But he's still THE GREATEST HALFBACK OF ALL TIME, ******!
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Oh man. You took me seriously.
Thought maybe you were staring at the purple horn a little too long.

I think the Vikes missed their shot... but a lot depends on the decline of Favre and who replaces them... does Couch's new home turn him around? I dunno... there's no crying in football...
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Missed their shot?

The Vikings are young at every position besides uh, right guard.

And their contracts are created in such a way that we will have an ASSLOAD of cap room for years to come. So next year we can look at picking up a linebacker maybe.
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And as much as I like the Lions' improvements, they still have Joey "closed-eyes passer" Harrington dumping the ball off to Corey Schlessinger.

And their secondary is still suspect. Hopefully they won't suffer three season-ending injuries in the same game to their secondary this year.

Against the Vikings.
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Missed their shot?
Moss, Cater, Smith... that was a core...

Still got the hook-up w/ pep-moss... but I still think there a long way away... yeah, they have youth... that doesn't always equal wins... that and I'm not overly impressed with the coach...

but who knows... the right free agent move next year, and they're a different team.
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I'm happy for Brock. He deserves atleast a chance. Remember what he did just for us fans at WM 19. Absolutely incredible. So good for him
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Maybe, he pretty much accomplished a hell of a lot really quickly.
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Granted he is in great physical shape and yes he was young for the WWE, but he is starting really late in the NFL. It is possible for him to become a great player he just needs some skill. If he gets technique down he can be unstoppable. I read somewhere that he ran a 4.6 40? For someone who is what 6'5 295lbs, that is amazing. I think he will do alright if he can just learn things.
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Old 07-31-2004, 01:17 AM   #34
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Moss, Cater, Smith... that was a core...

Still got the hook-up w/ pep-moss... but I still think there a long way away... yeah, they have youth... that doesn't always equal wins... that and I'm not overly impressed with the coach...

but who knows... the right free agent move next year, and they're a different team.
I know we've been getting along, but you're an idiot.

The Vikings had no shot as they were. The attitudes... Smith didn't care about football, Moss was immature and Carter was JUST AS immature, hindering Moss' potential.

Now we have the most dominant offense in the NFL, and the only thing holding us back is coaching.

Free agents my ass. We have the talent. Our offense is almost perfect. Our defense only has a hole at linebacker, and even that remains to be seen. Nattiel showed a lot of potential last season, and he's had a year to grow.

I don't think we're a player away. I think the talent we have should be able to mask the talent we lack. But that again is all on Mike Tice.

The Vikings could win it all, if Mike Tice learned from his mistakes. He brags about never making the same mistakes twice...

We'll see.

But don't say our 98 team was better. Our COACHES were.
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Although Steussie, Randall McDaniel, Jeff Christy, David Dixon and Korey Stringer...

Robert Smith, LeRoy Hoard, David Palmer,

Randy Moss, Cris Carter, Jake Reed, Matthew Hatchette

Brad Johnson, Randall Cunningham, Jay Fiedler.

Um, the TEs we had in 98.
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Media circus. I bet you anything that Red McCombs had a say in signing Brock. I can almost guarantee that despite being on the practice squad, there will be a Lesnar #9(whatever) jersey.

BTW, he's listed at DT. Probably the fastest DT in the history of the world. And I think he can contribute at DT, because there is less technique involved in collapsing the pocket.

And this year, he'd do in a pinch just running down on kickoffs at the VERY least.
No way, there is A LOT of technique in collapsing the pocket. You might be able to bull rush a guy maybe 1 or 2 times in game but if an OL knows thats ALL you can do you aren't going to be able to do anything. If he is a quick learner he might be able to pick up quick, but DLineman rushing techniques are all about hand and foot speed.

And he runs a 5.75 40 yard dash, I dunno, I would have to look at some Defensive lineman and see how that stands up. I am sure its pretty good, but if you compaire to defensive ends as well as lineman he might not be as good.
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He said he weighed in at 283 lbs, ran a 4.65 40, had a vertical jump of 35 inches, a standing long jump of 10 feet, and was able to bench 225 lbs at 30 reps.

According to him these are standard tests that NFL teams do and he said that Brock expects to do a lot better at the end of his 6 week training period since he hasn't been working out much lately.

That's off some website, quoting his workout stats.

I mean holy fuck. 35 inches? Holy fuck. Better than some CBs. 30 reps? Holy fuck. Stronger than some(few) linemen. 4.65? Shit, man. You can't have it both ways.

And these stats are after he had taken it easy on working out due to his injuries... and 4.65 with an injured groin?

I wouldn't even be walking if I tore my groin.

But you're right, it takes technique... unless you're Kris Jenkins. But I'd just figure, unless you're, like, a speed rusher, it's harder to play end, because you have a lot more space to account for: Your own, and the field on your outside, on an off-tackle run or whatever.

But I know all about DT technique, having watched Kevin Williams come on strong at the end of the season.
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I didnt realize he ran a 4.65 40...that is pretty impressive. Vert of 35 is impressive.

I am not down on the guy at all here, I hope he does make it. Would be pretty cool, but I am being realistic here. A lot of guys shine on the combine tests and then never really pan out. It will be intresting to see though
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Yeah I found a pretty hot discussion about this here http://www.iwrestling.com/2004/04/lesnar_turns_do.html

Someone mentions that Kearse at 260 runs a 4.6 40, and he's a) small and b) "The Freak," so I think having that vertical, being that strong, and being BIGGER than Kearse, gives Brock an advantage.

Imagine if he had chosen football when being recruited. Oh my God, he could possibly have achieved Ray Lewis proportions of awesome.
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