Ron Artest is the biggest idiot ever....hands down.

**Splaya** · 11-10-2004, 11:38 PM

This guy is stupid. First of all, the reason why he was benched for two games was because he asked Rick Carlisle if he could take a month off because his body was sore, and because he wanted to take a month off to promote his rap album.

Then a reporter told him he had destroyed the integrity of the Pacers.

Artest: Wait, I have no idea what that means.

Reporter: What means?

Artest: I don't have a dictionary by me right now, but I have no idea what integrity means?

The reporter then told him what integrity means.

Artest: Oh well I guess the team is probably disappointed in me.

Honestly, someone needs tojust release this asshole from his contract.

**Splaya** · 11-10-2004, 11:45 PM

LA Clippers 102, Indiana 68

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By JON KRAWCZYNSKI, AP Sports Writer
November 10, 2004

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INDIANAPOLIS (AP) -- All the injuries and Ron Artest's benching finally caught up with Indiana, in historic fashion.

Elton Brand had 19 points and 16 rebounds and the Los Angeles Clippers took control of the lethargic Pacers from the start in a 102-68 victory Wednesday night, the worst home loss in franchise history.

The Clippers outscored the Pacers 31-7 in the second quarter, holding Indiana (4-1) to a franchise-low for points in a quarter.

Artest was serving the second of a two-game benching imposed by coach Rick Carlisle because he ``compromised the integrity of the team.''

The volatile forward said Wednesday that he asked Carlisle for time off because of a busy schedule that included promoting a soon-to-be released rap album.

``I was doing a lot,'' Artest said. ``I was running around a lot and doing a whole bunch of stuff and I've also been working out, so I think I wore myself down physically, I wore myself down mentally. I was ready to take some time off, at least like a month off, but two games is enough.''

When asked if Artest would return for Friday night's game at Philadelphia as originally planned, Carlisle said, ``We'll see. We'll see. It's not something I'm going to talk about right now.''

The Pacers sure could have used their All-Star and last year's defensive player of the year against the Clippers.

Artest's benching left Indiana with only nine players available to play. Center Scot Pollard missed the game with a sore lower back and Jonathan Bender, who was expected to return after missing the previous three games with a sore knee, stayed home with a viral infection.

``We've certainly got to get some bodies healthy,'' Carlisle said. ``We certainly didn't play with the kind of energy we have been playing with. It's a bad hit. It's embarrassing.''

Even with all the personnel problems, Indiana managed a perfect start to the season thanks to crisp ball movement and strong defense.

Neither were on display against the Clippers, who got open jumpers and layups at will and dominated throughout.

A night after out-hustling and out-rebounding the Minnesota Timberwolves in a spirited road win, the Pacers didn't have enough left.

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The Clippers put the game away with a 19-2 run in the second quarter. Mikki Moore punctuated the run with a thunderous dunk over Pacers rookie David Harrison for a 53-26 lead.

``Once they got on top of us, they didn't let up,'' said Stephen Jackson, who led the Pacers with 17 points.

The Pacers managed just two field goals in the quarter and were booed by the home crowd as they headed into the locker room down 28 points at halftime.

The Pacers shot 12.5 percent in the second quarter and 26 percent for the half. They weren't much better at the free throw line, going 6-of-13.

Moore said it was a statement game for the Clippers.

``Yes, to our fans and the other nonbelievers,'' said Moore, who finished with a career-high 16 points and seven rebounds. ``I'm not saying we're unstoppable because they came out short-handed tonight. We come out and play hard every night. Everybody on this team has a lot to prove.''

The Clippers made their first 18 free throws and were 24-for-26 from the line for the game. They also shot 49 percent from the field and held a 49-32 rebounding advantage after losing to Detroit in double overtime on Monday.

``This is a real big win. To bounce back from losing in double overtime like that to the champs,'' Moore said.

They snapped a six-game losing streak to the Pacers, won for the first time at Conseco Fieldhouse and for the first time in Indiana since 1992.

Sure they had a little bit of luck in facing a depleted Indiana team, but they'll take it.

``It's a great win for us, even though they were short-handed,'' Clippers coach Mike Dunleavy said. ``At the end of the year, they usually don't go back and ask you about it. We took advantage of the opportunity.''

Bobby Simmons added 18 points and six assists for the Clippers.

Jamaal Tinsley added 15 points and eight assists for the Pacers, whose injury woes continued.

Jermaine O'Neal did not play the fourth quarter after straining his left foot, which has bothered him all season. He is listed as day-to-day.

But the Pacers aren't making any excuses.

``We haven't had those guys the first four games and it didn't make a difference,'' Fred Jones said. ``We just didn't perform like we're supposed to do.'' Notes Pollard and Bender are both expected back for Friday's game at Philadelphia. ... Simmons received a flagrant foul for hitting Jones on the head on a dunk attempt in the third quarter. ... O'Neal received a technical foul at 4:21 of the second quarter for arguing with the officials.

**BCWWF** · 11-10-2004, 11:53 PM

I would trade Sprewell for Artest any day

**Splaya** · 11-11-2004, 12:01 AM

Don't get me started on him. Man I smell a great Fact or Fiction here.

**Triple A** · 11-11-2004, 12:09 AM

LMAO he is hilarious.

**BabyHugger** · 11-11-2004, 01:37 AM

THis wa slike almso timposssible souinding. Soundslike the onion or something.

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 11-11-2004, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splaya

Honestly, someone needs tojust release this asshole from his contract.

Yes, they should release the best defender in the NBA. That's a wonderful idea Splaya. You have the best ideas ever. What a clever boy you are. That is such an amazing idea.

**DaveWadding** · 11-11-2004, 01:58 AM

Of course he is, the Pistons could always use someone of Artest's talent level.

**The Icon of Elisim** · 11-11-2004, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF

I would trade Sprewell for Artest any day

This foreign theory you present of trading players of less talent for players of greater talent interests me. Its just so crazy and off the wall that it might work.

I mean basic logic would suggest that better players are better than worse players, but can this concept really be applied to athletes?

**John la Rock** · 11-11-2004, 02:47 AM

fucking idiot

**Bad Guy** · 11-11-2004, 02:48 AM

Sportscenter was knocking on him it was hilarious. "What song titles should Ron Artest put on his new album, how about 'I just got dunked on!'" and then ESPN shows a clip of him getting dunked on.

**Splaya** · 11-11-2004, 08:18 AM

Actuall the clip was a Clipper dunking on a Pacer but who is counting

**Splaya** · 11-11-2004, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme

Yes, they should release the best defender in the NBA. That's a wonderful idea Splaya. You have the best ideas ever. What a clever boy you are. That is such an amazing idea.

Hey, even if he is the best guard defender on the league, why would you keep someone who is detremental to your team and someone who will have your team's integrity questioned every night. Don't even bring up Rodman either, because Rodman would not have left for a month to promote a rap album. He would kick peope in the groin and be out for 11 games, but that would be a suspension.

Artest and Sprewell are the 2 biggest idiots in the NBA.

**BCWWF** · 11-11-2004, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Icon of Elisim

This foreign theory you present of trading players of less talent for players of greater talent interests me. Its just so crazy and off the wall that it might work.

I mean basic logic would suggest that better players are better than worse players, but can this concept really be applied to athletes?

To borrow a page from RDD, are you retarded?

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 11-11-2004, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF

To borrow a page from RDD, are you retarded?

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH

right over your head

RP · 11-11-2004, 12:57 PM

First of all. They guy carried the team on a banged up left knee the first 3 games of the season . Which you obviously failed to mention.

Second. WHy would they not get rid of him??? Oooo lets see cause he goes out and holds guys like Paul Peirce to 15 points a game. Or shuts down guy's like Tracy Mcgrady every night they play. Or maybe the 24 points a game that he puts up a night along with that defense. Or could it be the 8 rebounds or 3 steals a night? He may come off to an idiot to you but trust me he's no idiot when he gets on the floor. The only idiots are the ones that suggest a team should let a guy like this go who is in the prime of his career.

Btw.. If you read Donnie Walsh's(boss) comments he said point blank that the rap album issue never came up when he asked for time off.

I'll take Ron Artest over Mcgrady, Peirce, Carter, just about any small foward/sg in the game. Even if i have to spot him a 11 or so games for time off

**Splaya** · 11-11-2004, 02:32 PM

Anyone can shut anyone down in the first 4 games of the season. No one is in mid season form.

**Splaya** · 11-11-2004, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder

Btw.. If you read Donnie Walsh's(boss) comments he said point blank that the rap album issue never came up when he asked for time off.

Then why did Artest say that's why he wanted time off. Sounds like a boss trying to cover up the stupidity of his player

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 11-11-2004, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splaya

Anyone can shut anyone down in the first 4 games of the season. No one is in mid season form.

you know he was 03-04 defensive player of the year right

**BCWWF** · 11-11-2004, 03:07 PM

I'm going to agree with Rectal Protruder. If im not mistaken, his technicals went down last year, which shows that he is getting better. I said I would trade Latrell Sprewell for Ron Artest in a second because Artest has all the bull shit but he is actually really good. Sprewell is just a douche. I didn't mean there was going to be a straight up deal, which I thought was pretty obvious, but I guess now. If they do trade him, they better get a lot in return.

I think that if you read all the articles and watch the actual interview a few times, shit is being totally blown out of proportion because he is such an easy target. He really just asked for some time off, said that some of his focus was on his album, and said that now that he had two games off he will be good to go. I still stand behind him.

**BCWWF** · 11-11-2004, 03:11 PM

OK, lets play a little game. Which is worse?

"I need [15 million per year] to feed my family. Why should I help this team win a NBA title if they won't do anything for me"

or

"Can I get some time off so that I can rehab and get back into 100% so I can help this team win a NBA title"

I think the case is settled.

**Splaya** · 11-11-2004, 04:03 PM

What if the Pacers go 0-13 while he is gone and don't make the playoffs?

**The Miz** · 11-11-2004, 04:10 PM

What if they don't because that won't happen with a team with that kind of talent, and the fact they play in the Eastern conference

**BCWWF** · 11-11-2004, 04:15 PM

I'm pretty sure he didn't ask for 13 games off, he asked for time off until like Thanksgiving, which would be 5-6 games.

**Splaya** · 11-11-2004, 06:09 PM

Ok the idiot was on ESPN on Sportscenter right now. He made some good points.

He wants to take the whole year off.

He wants to help his team.

He thinks by taking these 5-6 games off, it will save him for the playoffs.

He wants us to know that the album is an R and B album and not a rap album.

He also is not singing, he is the executive producer.

He promoted his album about 5 times during the interview.

He said he could walk away from the game, and that he is not crazy if he decides to do this.

Yeah guys, he's not an idiot

**Johnny Vegas** · 11-11-2004, 06:18 PM

I wish you would say this shit to his [Artest] face Splaya..i would love to see the outcome..Artest reminds me of an old Mike Tyson

**Splaya** · 11-11-2004, 06:22 PM

And I'd love to see Artest confront Stephen A Smith, because I feel Smith would destroy Artest

**DaveWadding** · 11-11-2004, 07:01 PM

LOL Stephen Asshole is a loudmouth pussy bitch

**Splaya** · 11-11-2004, 07:09 PM

As opposed to being a fat ass nothing in life like yourself Dave???

**DaveWadding** · 11-11-2004, 07:21 PM

wow, splaya, you know me so well.

**BCWWF** · 11-11-2004, 07:40 PM

Point made on around the horn today: Now his album just got about 500 times the publicity. Its not like Artest was a saint before, this was probably just a big publicity stunt that worked perfectly.

**Crimson** · 11-11-2004, 07:49 PM

I don't know what the Pacers can do.I mean this is the NBA, if you're an all-star you can prety much do anything...demand a trade, take some time off, get in trouble with the law and get no punishment. I think his teammates might think a little less of him , but once he comes back it's all forgotten.

But yea Sprewell is a bigger idiot, I would try and trade him...you can't feed your family off of 8 million you must be one stupid motherfucker.

**BCWWF** · 11-11-2004, 08:18 PM

14.6 million actually, tied for the 9th highest paid NBA player (being paid more this year than T-Mac, Kobe, Tim Duncan, Paul Pierce, Vince Carter, and Dirk). He's mad because they aren't giving him an extension for more money than that.

RP · 11-11-2004, 11:51 PM

Spreewell looks like he stepped out of an old episode of Fraggle Rock. He's worth shit. Artest is worth the millions.

**Splaya** · 11-12-2004, 12:20 AM

Put Artest and Ben Wallace in a game of 1 on 1 and tell me who would win. More importantly, who would have the better defensive stats.

**el fregadero** · 11-12-2004, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by splaya

LA Clippers 102, Indiana 68

Getting rid of him makes alot of sense now, doesn't it?

**BCWWF** · 11-12-2004, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splaya

Put Artest and Ben Wallace in a game of 1 on 1 and tell me who would win. More importantly, who would have the better defensive stats.

I'm sure Artest would win because he is smaller and quicker, which is what matters in one on one. If you put Mike James against Shaq 1 on 1, Mike James would probably win, but it doesn't mean he is the better player.

**The Mackem** · 11-12-2004, 06:55 AM

The Pacers should make all their players go to English class, it's the only way.

**The Outlaw** · 11-12-2004, 12:47 PM

LOL Artest is a clown

So is Spree

**Splaya** · 11-12-2004, 12:54 PM

I still wonder who is the bigger idiot. I mean both don't want to play for each other's teams.

I say Minnesota and Indiana should make a trade

11-10-2004, 11:53 PM	#3
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I would trade Sprewell for Artest any day

11-11-2004, 12:01 AM	#4
Splaya 1-0 TPWW Chess Master Posts: 17,211	Don't get me started on him. Man I smell a great Fact or Fiction here.

11-11-2004, 12:09 AM	#5
Triple A Triple A Posts: 133,040	LMAO he is hilarious.

11-11-2004, 01:37 AM	#6
BabyHugger MJwO Posts: 3,157	THis wa slike almso timposssible souinding. Soundslike the onion or something.

11-11-2004, 01:58 AM	#8
DaveWadding LIMITLESS Posts: 32,276	Of course he is, the Pistons could always use someone of Artest's talent level.

11-11-2004, 02:47 AM	#10
John la Rock That's how I roll!!! Posts: 4,437	fucking idiot

11-11-2004, 02:48 AM	#11
Bad Guy TPWW VET Posts: 10,837	Sportscenter was knocking on him it was hilarious. "What song titles should Ron Artest put on his new album, how about 'I just got dunked on!'" and then ESPN shows a clip of him getting dunked on.

11-11-2004, 08:18 AM	#12
Splaya 1-0 TPWW Chess Master Posts: 17,211	Actuall the clip was a Clipper dunking on a Pacer but who is counting

11-11-2004, 12:57 PM	#16
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,991	First of all. They guy carried the team on a banged up left knee the first 3 games of the season . Which you obviously failed to mention. Second. WHy would they not get rid of him??? Oooo lets see cause he goes out and holds guys like Paul Peirce to 15 points a game. Or shuts down guy's like Tracy Mcgrady every night they play. Or maybe the 24 points a game that he puts up a night along with that defense. Or could it be the 8 rebounds or 3 steals a night? He may come off to an idiot to you but trust me he's no idiot when he gets on the floor. The only idiots are the ones that suggest a team should let a guy like this go who is in the prime of his career. Btw.. If you read Donnie Walsh's(boss) comments he said point blank that the rap album issue never came up when he asked for time off. I'll take Ron Artest over Mcgrady, Peirce, Carter, just about any small foward/sg in the game. Even if i have to spot him a 11 or so games for time off

11-11-2004, 02:32 PM	#17
Splaya 1-0 TPWW Chess Master Posts: 17,211	Anyone can shut anyone down in the first 4 games of the season. No one is in mid season form.

11-11-2004, 03:07 PM	#20
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I'm going to agree with Rectal Protruder. If im not mistaken, his technicals went down last year, which shows that he is getting better. I said I would trade Latrell Sprewell for Ron Artest in a second because Artest has all the bull shit but he is actually really good. Sprewell is just a douche. I didn't mean there was going to be a straight up deal, which I thought was pretty obvious, but I guess now. If they do trade him, they better get a lot in return. I think that if you read all the articles and watch the actual interview a few times, shit is being totally blown out of proportion because he is such an easy target. He really just asked for some time off, said that some of his focus was on his album, and said that now that he had two games off he will be good to go. I still stand behind him.

11-11-2004, 03:11 PM	#21
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	OK, lets play a little game. Which is worse? "I need [15 million per year] to feed my family. Why should I help this team win a NBA title if they won't do anything for me" or "Can I get some time off so that I can rehab and get back into 100% so I can help this team win a NBA title" I think the case is settled.

11-11-2004, 04:03 PM	#22
Splaya 1-0 TPWW Chess Master Posts: 17,211	What if the Pacers go 0-13 while he is gone and don't make the playoffs?

11-11-2004, 04:10 PM	#23
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	What if they don't because that won't happen with a team with that kind of talent, and the fact they play in the Eastern conference

11-11-2004, 04:15 PM	#24
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I'm pretty sure he didn't ask for 13 games off, he asked for time off until like Thanksgiving, which would be 5-6 games.

11-11-2004, 06:09 PM	#25
Splaya 1-0 TPWW Chess Master Posts: 17,211	Ok the idiot was on ESPN on Sportscenter right now. He made some good points. He wants to take the whole year off. He wants to help his team. He thinks by taking these 5-6 games off, it will save him for the playoffs. He wants us to know that the album is an R and B album and not a rap album. He also is not singing, he is the executive producer. He promoted his album about 5 times during the interview. He said he could walk away from the game, and that he is not crazy if he decides to do this. Yeah guys, he's not an idiot

11-11-2004, 06:18 PM	#26
Johnny Vegas Head on a Rollercoaster Posts: 6,756	I wish you would say this shit to his [Artest] face Splaya..i would love to see the outcome..Artest reminds me of an old Mike Tyson

11-11-2004, 06:22 PM	#27
Splaya 1-0 TPWW Chess Master Posts: 17,211	And I'd love to see Artest confront Stephen A Smith, because I feel Smith would destroy Artest

11-11-2004, 07:01 PM	#28
DaveWadding LIMITLESS Posts: 32,276	LOL Stephen Asshole is a loudmouth pussy bitch

11-11-2004, 07:09 PM	#29
Splaya 1-0 TPWW Chess Master Posts: 17,211	As opposed to being a fat ass nothing in life like yourself Dave???

11-11-2004, 07:21 PM	#30
DaveWadding LIMITLESS Posts: 32,276	wow, splaya, you know me so well.

11-11-2004, 07:40 PM	#31
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Point made on around the horn today: Now his album just got about 500 times the publicity. Its not like Artest was a saint before, this was probably just a big publicity stunt that worked perfectly.

11-11-2004, 07:49 PM	#32
Crimson Posts: 6,108	I don't know what the Pacers can do.I mean this is the NBA, if you're an all-star you can prety much do anything...demand a trade, take some time off, get in trouble with the law and get no punishment. I think his teammates might think a little less of him , but once he comes back it's all forgotten. But yea Sprewell is a bigger idiot, I would try and trade him...you can't feed your family off of 8 million you must be one stupid motherfucker.

11-11-2004, 08:18 PM	#33
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	14.6 million actually, tied for the 9th highest paid NBA player (being paid more this year than T-Mac, Kobe, Tim Duncan, Paul Pierce, Vince Carter, and Dirk). He's mad because they aren't giving him an extension for more money than that.

11-11-2004, 11:51 PM	#34
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,991	Spreewell looks like he stepped out of an old episode of Fraggle Rock. He's worth shit. Artest is worth the millions.

11-12-2004, 12:20 AM	#35
Splaya 1-0 TPWW Chess Master Posts: 17,211	Put Artest and Ben Wallace in a game of 1 on 1 and tell me who would win. More importantly, who would have the better defensive stats.

11-12-2004, 06:55 AM	#38
The Mackem VG + Q&A FORUM REPRESENT Posts: 38,940	The Pacers should make all their players go to English class, it's the only way.

11-12-2004, 12:47 PM	#39
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	LOL Artest is a clown So is Spree

11-12-2004, 12:54 PM	#40
Splaya 1-0 TPWW Chess Master Posts: 17,211	I still wonder who is the bigger idiot. I mean both don't want to play for each other's teams. I say Minnesota and Indiana should make a trade