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Old 01-21-2005, 04:37 PM   #1
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Its not official, it was reported through a second hand source, but read it and weep.

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twinci...s/10695548.htm

I dunno, it may or may not happen. Personally I like Moss a lot, he is the man and when he plays on his game he is by far the most dangerous player in the league (You could make an argument for Vick too I guess). I guess if he is going to want a trade, it wouldn't be too bad. SF got screwed and got what, a second round DP? The talks right now are stuff like

Moss for Adwale Ogunlea, Chris Chambers, and a first round DP

For some reason I could see the Redskins making an offer, something like Lavar Arrington, Laverneus Coles, and a DP. We'll see though, Moss would be technical in a Redskins uniform. Miami would be a cool place for him too. I just wish we could get Jason Taylor, because he is the absolute man.

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Old 01-21-2005, 04:41 PM   #2
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Ogunleye plays for chicago not the dolphins anymore... I doubt he'll get traded though... either way, he's one of my fav players and I will cheer for whatever team he's on.
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There was talk in the newspapers the other day that the Cards might be interested in him.

Personally, I think that would be an aweful move. We have three great, young recivers in the league.
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That was the talk on Minnesota talk radio for a little a few weeks ago, but I doubt that would be the case because the Cards don't have what the Vikings would neccessarily want and they already have a top tier wide reciever (to be).

If he does get traded, the Dolphins, Redskins, maybe the Ravens or something would be involved.

On a note about the Cardinals, it is widely rumored that Chris Hovan is going to go down there next year. Hovan was the Vikings first round draft pick in 2000 I think it was and was a very very promising player. Then these last two years he just hasn't fit in with the Vikings and just walked out pissed from the last day of Vikings practice. Many people think he can go down to Arizona with Denny Green and reach his full potential, which is damn good.
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someone from the Cards said they weren't interested.

the nfl show on hbo, was talking about the Jets.

But I think right now it's all blind guessing.

The Pats took Dillon who people though was a problem child...

lmfao, imagine if Moss came to the Pats and changed his attitude...
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Lol, I don't think Dillon was ever regarded in the same light that Moss is. IMO the Jets don't need Moss, they already have a Moss who is damn good. They just need to work with what they have, boost up a few role players, and they are a really solid team again.
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Moss going to the Ravens would be perfect for him. He needs someone like Ray Lewis on his team so he keeps his shit staright.
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Yeah I don't see why the Jets would really need him. Santana Moss is good news and McCariens has been Pennington's go-to guy this past season. But that would still be hot though.
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Moss going to the Ravens would be perfect for him. He needs someone like Ray Lewis on his team so he keeps his shit staright.
I thought TO would have been a good fit in there too, if they had a WR like that, they have one of the best RB's in the game, add a top WR and a dominant defense, and even their QB is showing some signs of coming out of his shell. What if they got Moss and Boller pulls a Brees
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TO wouldn't have worked in Baltimore. He needs to be with a great QB, he would have complained about Boller and shit. Boller is being, I don't know how to put this, babied or some shit. Like sheltred from all the bad shit, like whenever his teammates talk about him they talk so high about him. Samething with there coach, I think they are just trying to keep his confendence level up so he can reach his potential. I don't think TO would be willing to do that haha
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The Lavar Arrington, Laverneaus Coles, and draft pick was just an idea I pulled out of my ass, but I think it is realistic. That would be really big IMO, it would be hard not to take that. Do you think its realistic?
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The Lavar Arrington, Laverneaus Coles, and draft pick was just an idea I pulled out of my ass, but I think it is realistic. That would be really big IMO, it would be hard not to take that. Do you think its realistic?
No I don't think its realistic for either sides.

I don't think that could work out for a couple of reasons.

I don't know if that would work for the cap since all they all have pretty considerable contracts (don't know off the top of my head, but I know Arrington is in the 8 year- 60 million range with a 20 million signing bonus which he still may be owed and I'm gonna guess that Moss has a huge contract and Coles has a hefty one alse)

I also don't think that Gibbs would go for it. Sure, Snyder would kill to bring in Moss but I think Gibbs wouldn't put up with his antics.
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he is by far the most dangerous player in the league (You could make an argument for Vick too I guess)
I think you have it backwards there
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How about some irony, trade him to the Packers.

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I also don't think that Gibbs would go for it. Sure, Snyder would kill to bring in Moss but I think Gibbs wouldn't put up with his antics.
yeah, Gibbs wouldn't quit.

That and Washington couldn't take advantage of his talent, they don't have a good QB.

Just thinking of teams where he'd fit good, not what they'd need to deal, cause figure it will be draft picks.

Ravens makes sense.

Saints.

Falcons.

Those are the top 3 that come to mind, good QB's, good RB and could use a true #1 WR.
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How about some irony, trade him to the Packers.

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Darren Bennett was an absolute choke this season though
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Edge and Stokely for Moss.
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Edge and Stokely for Moss.
yeah, cause the lack of offense is why Indy can't win...

Plus, you'd have to replace edge, and isn't Rhodes a free agent? and he'll cost good money...

so, you'd have Moss, Harrison, Manning, and Rhodes or another RB, 4 guys taking up over 1/2 the salary cap.

That was the problem in New England when Carol took over for Parcells and didn't really get corrected until Billicheck and Pioli.
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That would be such a good move for the Vikings though, Edge, Bennett, Onterio, Mewelde, Mo
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That would be such a good move for the Vikings though, Edge, Bennett, Onterio, Mewelde, Mo
yeah, a lot of things would be good for a lot of teams, but let's look at moves that make a little sense. Which doesn't just mean who can/will "handle" Mpss.

It includes who will/can afford him and he's a good fit.
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Edge and Stokley is way too much for Moss. Yeah, hes one of the top WRs but cmon lets get serious.

You gotta remember, teams going for Moss are going to have to give something up. Like the Jets, would prob have to trade atleast one of their WRs and send over a draft pick or something. Unless the Vikings are gonna go the Bengals route and just trade him for 2nd round pick hahah
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Edge and Stokley is way too much for Moss. Yeah, hes one of the top WRs but cmon lets get serious.

You gotta remember, teams going for Moss are going to have to give something up. Like the Jets, would prob have to trade atleast one of their WRs and send over a draft pick or something. Unless the Vikings are gonna go the Bengals route and just trade him for 2nd round pick hahah
Are u serious? Edge is replacable as they have Mungro,Rhodes and Ricky Williams.Moss>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Stokley
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I don't know about all that. Edge is one of the best running backs in the NFL.
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The Vikings aren't going to trade for a RB, period. If they trade him it will be for a top defensive player, a solid WR, and some sort of draft pick.
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Moss to the Jets for Derek Straight, McCarens, and 1st round pick

Nah just made that one completley up haha
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Maybe he can go to Dallas like he wanted to originally before they decided to go ahead and draft GREG ELLIS.

Dammit, this is gonna bring up 6 year old frustration all over again. I'm pretty sure Moss holds a grudge against them too since he seems to play all pissed off everytime he plays Dallas.
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Shut your fucking face.. i was throwin that out my ass moron. And no Rhodes was signed last year i believe.. and Yes Edge needs to be traded. Rhodes has Tony Dorsett ability, thats no joke. Edge is in his prime and we need Teddy Bruschi...errrrrrrr a Defensive star.
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Moss > Edge

Translation: Vikings get Bruschi, Colts get Rushen Jones
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Moss > Edge

Translation: Vikings get Bruschi, Colts get Rushen Jones
and what exactly are the Pats getting for Bruschi?

He's not going anywhere, he's his own agent, does his own deal and takes less then he could get elsewhere because he loves it here.
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Old 01-23-2005, 07:28 AM   #32
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Shut your fucking face.. i was throwin that out my ass moron. And no Rhodes was signed last year i believe.. and Yes Edge needs to be traded. Rhodes has Tony Dorsett ability, thats no joke. Edge is in his prime and we need Teddy Bruschi...errrrrrrr a Defensive star.
dunno, a couple of sites show Edge, Rhodes and Dorsett as UFA's
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Palaxico is a UFA... maybe Minnesota signs him and send Moss to the steelers for some picks?
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yeah, Gibbs wouldn't quit.

That and Washington couldn't take advantage of his talent, they don't have a good QB.

Just thinking of teams where he'd fit good, not what they'd need to deal, cause figure it will be draft picks.

Ravens makes sense.

Saints.

Falcons.

Those are the top 3 that come to mind, good QB's, good RB and could use a true #1 WR.
Yeah I don't see it working out that the trade is for anything more than picks and maybe someone low on a depth chart.

If you want to work this out team by team...

You can eliminate the Bears, Packers and Lions

Falcons need a big play reciever but Moss isn't in their direction
Bucs have too many picks tied up in the Gruden trade
Saints are realistic, especially if they still have some picks from the Ricky Williams trade
Panthers are set at reciever

Eagles are set at reciever
Cowboys are overloaded at WR and need defense
Redskins are a possibility if they could rework a contract, but I don't think Gibbs would take him on
Giants would be a good fit, New York teams always have to make big off season moves to stay in the headlines and they need a downfield threat

Seahawks are overloaded at WR
Rams are set at WR
Arizona is set at WR
San Fransico needs a franchise offensive player and their recievers are all pretty unproven. On one hand the new coach is probably going to want to spend the money and picks on defense but on the other hand getting Moss would send a message to the fans. I could see the 49ers as a legit option.

San Diego could use him but I don't think its worth it for them
Denver needs a reciever pretty badly and I think its a possibility
Kansas City won't be spending anything on offense
Oakland is a strong possibility, always looking for a big player and they have the picks from the Gruden trade

Ravens need a reciever, and they obviously are willing to take on someone like TO so Moss isn't a huge leap
Bengals are set at WR
Steelers are set at WR
Browns need offense badly, I don't think Romeo is going to go after it though

New England doesn't fit with him
Buffalo is a good fit for him, they have good wide recievers but would for sure like a better one.
Jets are set at WR
Miami won't go after him, I think they are happy with their recievers and just need a QB and RB to complement them

Titans have a good corps
Indianapolis doesn't need him
Houston doesn't need him
Jacksonville doesn't need him.

So I could see him in New Orleans, New York, San Francisco, Denver, Oakland, Baltimore, Buffalo and maybe Cleveland
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VEL that was all tongue and cheek stuff about Bruschi, obviously he wouldn't be in a trade for Moss.

Icon great post, very accurate in my opinion too.
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Shut your fucking face.. i was throwin that out my ass moron. And no Rhodes was signed last year i believe.. and Yes Edge needs to be traded. Rhodes has Tony Dorsett ability, thats no joke. Edge is in his prime and we need Teddy Bruschi...errrrrrrr a Defensive star.
Obviously it came from your ass because it was shit.

Never post here again.
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Obviously it came from your ass because it was shit.

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Good post tioe,

I disagree on a few.

Bears could use him.
SF would be more likely to go draft
Buffalo has a top WR.
Jax might want someone to replace Jimmy Smith.
Denver has Lelie who looks good to replace Rod Smith.
Cleveland - Crennel looks to be the new coach, I don't think he'd touch Moss.

But this is also all w/o knowing cap situations... which changes a lot.

I see Baltimore, New Orleans and Oakland (forgot about them) as the top 3 homes for him.

I think he could be a great fit for the Jets but I don't think they have the cap room.
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Dorsett isnt a free agent. He's retired and in the Hall of fame.
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