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Old 07-13-2005, 10:55 PM   #41
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Old 07-13-2005, 11:12 PM   #42
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Old 07-14-2005, 03:35 AM   #43
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Old 07-15-2005, 08:57 PM   #44
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This appeared in the Post-Gazette's "Weekend Mag" insert yesterday thatr really caught my eye iof how dumb and stupid people are:

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The "terrorism story line" on the July 7 episode of WWE Smackdown on UPN was the most disgusting and tasteless thing I have ever seen in any form of "entertainment." To film such a segment was utterly tasteless under any circumstances. ... For WWE and UPN to make the decision to still the air the segment even after the terrorist attacks took place in London makes it all the more tasteless and classless.


It is one thing for World Wrestling Entertainment to have Arab-American characters (named Hassan and Daivari) who are presented as people we should all hate, with no Arab-American "good guys" to counteract them for the sake of balance. That is bad enough, and has been going on for months and months. (Topped off by the WWE's No. 1 "good guy" Stone Cold Steve Austin, recently saying in a line that was scripted by the WWE creative team, "I see sand people!" while looking at Hassan and Daivari.)

However, WWE has now crossed an entirely different line. I feel it is immoral and indecent for WWE to film a story line in which the "bad guys" (Hassan and Daivari) get their revenge on the "good guy" (long-time WWE wrestler The Undertaker) by basically having a simulated Islamic Jihadist terrorist attack, and to choose to air the segment rather than editing it off their show on the SAME DAY as real terrorists killed real people in London. I will no longer be watching WWE programming, nor will I be allowing my three children to watch WWE programming.

If you didn't see it, what happened was that Daivari had a one-on-one match with the "good guy," The Undertaker. Daivari was nervous about the match beforehand, but Hassan convinced him that he needed "to make a sacrifice for the greater good of our mission." Daivari ultimately lost the match in a one-sided manner. Daivari was left supposedly "unconscious" and laid out by The Undertaker. However, instead of being upset with this, Hassan stood at ringside calmly and looked happy and even had a smile on his face. He then knelt down and did a brief "prayer," at which point five men entered the ring who were wearing the same exact kind of black ski masks that you see terrorists wearing in beheading videos. The five men attacked The Undertaker and choked him unconscious with a cable wire.

As Daivari still lay on the mat unconscious from the beating he had been given by The Undertaker, Hassan entered the ring. As the five masked men, who were essentially being presented as "terrorists" or "jihadists," all dropped to their knees in a praying position, Hassan applied a pro wrestling move to The Undertaker and lifted his head and shoulders off the mat to show the camera his face. Of course, his head was still attached to his body, which is the difference between this and real terrorism.

What I found most offensive was the glorification of the "sacrifice" by these two self-described "normal Arab-Americans" in Hassan and Daivari. After all this was over and The Undertaker was left in the ring supposedly unconscious, the five masked "terrorist" men lifted up Daivari, who was still supposedly unconscious from losing his match to the Undertaker, and they carried Daivari over their heads as you often see people carrying the caskets of suicide bombers over their heads.

This episode of Smackdown was filmed July 4 and aired on July 7. It would be extremely tasteless and crass to film a storyline like this at any time under any circumstances. But they had over 24 hours from the time that London was attacked by terrorists to the time that WWE Smackdown hit the airwaves on the East Coast at 8 p.m. Eastern Time.

I believe in freedom of speech, but this kind of hate speech has no place on television, especially on network television at 9:05 PM. WWE and UPN should be ashamed for allowing this to air, and the media should take them to task for their actions.

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First off, how in the hell did were they supposed to do anything about it within that small of a time frame. If the incident happened at 8 AM EST on Wednesday, I could understand. Most of us only got word of it when we woke up Thursday morning, however, the day that SmackDown was supposed to air. Imagine how painful it would have been to need to do such a thing. What else could they have done to not show it. Of course, the UK had a much better window of editing time, so they could do such a thing. And they have to promote the match that Taker and Hassan have at the Bash in SOME way on the show, and how are they supposed to heighten the feud if they don't even do anything with it that week. It would've not done anythign worthwhile, even if the WWE did something a week later.

Bringing me to what the guy didn't say. First thing is first, the fact that the UK version DID have the said angle edited out. Why didn't he mention that, when he has firm knowledge of the WWE, for one? Secondly, didn't he read those crawls that were going across the screen? If so, he never made one mention that such a crawl even appeared, much less made a difference in what he was seeing.

And what was this about him and his three children (this guy has three children with how idiotic he is?) not going to be watching WWE programming again? Hasn't he not been made aware about the countless OTHER angles in which the WWE was pushing it? Katie Vick, HLA, Billy & Chuck, Mae Young giving birth to a hand, the presence of Austin the past 7 years or so, Al Wilson? What about them? He's acting like the WWE never did anything tasteless before, yet it sounds like he's been watching for some time. You mean to tell me that he still allowed the WWE to come into his home after someone fucking a corpse, but disallowes a mugging by people who MIGHT look like terrorists and wasn't half as offensive as Katie Vick or HLA? He not going to allow his kids to see things like Hassan, yet will be just happy with the fucking of a corpse for his kids to watch and admire? Please tell me how that is not insane?

And this guy lives in Maryland, yet is writing to a PITTSBURGH paper about this? What happened to all the newspapers in "Md."?

Even if this is just a ploy to get media attention, it seems that they also bring the idiots out to bitch and whine if they don't get it their way. I guess this guy is a firm example of that.
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Old 07-16-2005, 12:36 AM   #45
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In a way though, Hassan and Davairi are just lame characters right now. I could care less about the media gripes against them both, but what the wwe wanted from them were to be sympathetic characters. This mock sacrifice totally goes against everything they want the american people to view them as. This is so cheap. They fucked them over by the very begining basically.
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Old 07-16-2005, 09:52 AM   #46
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Which part was the terrorism, anyway?
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Old 07-16-2005, 10:20 AM   #47
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Old 07-16-2005, 10:23 AM   #48
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In a way though, Hassan and Davairi are just lame characters right now. I could care less about the media gripes against them both, but what the wwe wanted from them were to be sympathetic characters. This mock sacrifice totally goes against everything they want the american people to view them as. This is so cheap. They fucked them over by the very begining basically.
The only reason he doesn't have sympathy is because nobody wants to stop and think.

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Old 07-18-2005, 03:03 PM   #49
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WWE Says Timing of Arab Terrorist Ring Attack Was "Terrible"
A spokesman for World Wrestling Entertainment has acknowledged that airing a match featuring a supposed Arab-American wrestler named Muhammad Hassan on the day of the London subway and bus bombings was "terrible." Gary Davis told Advertising Age that the WWE has received hundreds of complaints, despite a warning crawl that it aired during the broadcast that some people might find the material offensive. In the match, Hassan and his cohorts were seen entering the ring and beating up a popular wrestler called the Undertaker. Davis said, however, that Hassan is actually an angry, disillusioned Arab-American embracing his roots after experiencing racism following the 9/11 attacks. AdAge disclosed that Hassan's real name is Mark Copani and that he is Italian-American.

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Hassan applied a pro wrestling move to The Undertaker and lifted his head and shoulders off the mat to show the camera his face. Of course, his head was still attached to his body, which is the difference between this and real terrorism.
Wait, so the terrorists applied a camel clutch to the guy they beheaded? And they let him live?
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[font=Arial]AdAge disclosed that Hassan's real name is Mark Copani and that he is Italian-American.
I thought his name was Mark Mangus?
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AdAge disclosed that Hassan's real name is Mark Copani and that he is Italian-American.
I thought his name was Mark Mangus?
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:44 PM   #53
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LOL. Is he Italian tho? Just wondering.
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