Kurt Angle Conference

[KingofOldSchool]

Originally Posted by Avenger I can see where you're coming from KK but Angle has said, and it has always been obvious, that while he was a "prized asset", he was often thrown into stupid angles and used to elevate others.

Stupid angles? And whoelse in the company hasn't been booked into stupid angles?

Kane? There is so many holes in his storyline.
HHH? Meet Katie Vick.
HBK? Putting over that young Hulk Hogan.
The Undertaker? Take your pick.
Austin? The Alliance.

Elevating others? Oh my what a horrible concept! Who needs to elevate other workers?

They constantly used him to make Cena look good, they did that stupid 3 minute match thing where the obvious build up was who would beat him. In the last couple years I can't remember an angle where the purpose was to put Angle properly over and make him the top guy.

He was the top guy for most of 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005, and 2006 when he wasn't hurt. Yeah cause he wasn't they didn't care about putting Angle over.

It was always either HHH, Rock, Austin, Brock or Cena who were going to be the eventual top guy with Angle just as the fall guy who put them over.

Austin put Angle over HUGE in 2001, but Angle's babyface heat died out quickly after they put the title on him. So what do they do? They put the title back on Austin (which wasn't their plan).

The Rock also put Angle over on numerous occasions. Angle dropped the title to Rock in 2001, was because EVERYONE knew it was going to be Rock/Austin at X-7. It was *THE* money match and they were right.

Brock and Angle had a nice feud going on and they wanted to get Brock over even more. So after Angle helped get the guy over, it's not like they knew he would bolt on the company.

HHH and Angle never had a proper 1 on 1 feud. When they did feud in 2000, The Rock was thrown in to the mix.

Once again they wanted Cena to be the top face so naturally they paired him with Angle so he could get a rub. Why is that so bad?

Plus he isn't a politician, as he himself says, he is a wrestler, an athlete, and a good man. I don't understand why people are crapping on this guy? Maybe we've just become so immune to HHH, HBK, Austin etc. running the show backstage and getting whatever they want. Let me remind you of a few things - HBK treated the business like shit when he was younger. He was involved in screwing Bret and held down so many guys with the Kliq. He is one of the worst backstage politicians and still to this day I doubt he gives many of the young guys the time of day. HHH is HHH. For two years he held the title which he DID NOT deserve to hold. He fucked us all over by ruining possible credible title runs for RVD, Booker etc. HHH is HHH. Stone Cold Steve Austin walked out on the business. He shat on the business when he stormed out over a little hissy fit about losing to Brock.

This isn't about backstage politics, get over it.

Now Vince would do anything for these guys, ANYTHING. Because they are top, top guys. Moneymakers. But they all treat the business like shit and have some sort of problem with letting us move into the next era in WWE. They won't let go. Look at this whole Austin/Hogan thing. Austin won't wrestle Hogan because of his "principles", Hogan wants to wrestle Austin for the payout which he undoubtedly doesn't need. Which of these two guys cares about wrestling?

Yet you make no mention of guys like Benoit, Edge, Holly, RVD, among others who had injuries and were given PLENTY of time off to heal. Where is the mention of them in your rant of "Waaaah they only care about Austin, Hogan, and HHH. Waaaaah"

When did Angle ever walk out? When did Angle ever refuse to lie down? When to Angle ever refuse to put a young guy over?

Once again this has nothing to do with Angle's dedication.

If Austin had an ounce of Angle's talent do you think he would use it to make others look good? NO.

*cough*AngleRockHHHBret*cough*

But this is what Kurt Angle did, he made others look good. But was he ever going to be the biggest draw in the world? Probably not. Just like Bret wasn't the biggest draw ever. There's one little thing they lack, and although they are probably the two best wrestlers - TECHNICALLY - they don't have the X-Factor that Austin, Taker, Rock, HHH have that enables them to draw so well.

Duh.

So you can talk about how Vince always looked after his prized talents so well. But Angle was not one of them. Sure Vince needed him so badly because without him who else could get him out of shitty situations?

Sounds pretty important to me.

Batista gets injured - stick the title on Kurt for a month as a transitional champ.

Angle held the title for around 3 and a half months. That's a little bit longer than 1 month, pal.

Then have him lose it to Rey FUCKING Mysterio. Easy. Problem + Angle = Problem Solved.

Well he was going to drop it to Orton, before the company realized that Orton is a prick. Oh and Mysterio held the title just as long as Angle did (only a few weeks longer).

Vince used Angle like this because he knew Angle wouldn't kick up a fuss. He went out there every night, did what he was told to do, gave 110% and never said two words about it. Angle never asked for anything from Vince.

Didn't Angle say that he asked Vince for time off to heal his injuries?

Vince treated Angle's body like shit and didn't give him time off because HE DIDN'T THINK ANGLE WOULD LEAVE. Why? Because Angle is not a politician.

He gave Kurt time off in 2003 to get his neck surgery, which Angle opted to go get the quick surgery done so HE could come back faster. Whereas guys like Austin and Benoit opted to do the longer surgery and they were out for over a year. Angle was out for a month or two, that was on his own accord. He could've taken the longer route. So yeah...

Now the second Angle comes out and decides - "I've had enough of Vince and his shit, I'm going to ask for something and I'm going to put my family and my health ahead of the business" - you all shit all over him. Instead of this why aren't we embracing a man who cares about this business, wants to see real wrestling on TV, wants to get rid of "ass kissing and strip poker" on wrestling shows, a man who is the best wrestler in the world, a man who wants to see guys like Samoa Joe wrestle for World Titles as opposed to a white rapper. WHY ARE WE PISSING ON ANGLE?

Yeah cause TNA Wrestling is sooooo "Real."

If you ask me he deserves to let off a little steam, and although he's bitter - GIVE HIM A CHANCE! Bret's been doing this for the last ten years and he is still some kinda' God to all you people! Austin says this shit every few months but still seems to have a job at WWE (God knows why?!). Cut Angle a little slack and just enjoy the fact that there is someone who wants to see wrestling on TV spelt - W-R-E-S-T-L-I-N-G!

Bret isn't my God.