DISCUSSION - Would Evolution ever work as a FACE stable like Degeneration X?

**Heyman** · 04-13-2004, 05:28 PM

DISCUSSION - Would Evolution ever work as a FACE stable like Degeneration X?

I can't remember if I've posted a topic similar to this or not, but I'm too lazy to check.

Anyways - here is my concern:

1) Evolution will break up (Orton and Batista boot out Flair and Triple H or something).

2) Orton becomes the leader of the group.

My initial concern of something like this happening, was that Evolution would become a mid-card stable for awhile (since Orton won't be main-eventing for the next half year or so anyways).

In rebuttal to this concern of mine, many people pointed out that Degeneration X also became a mid-card stable when Triple H initially took over.

My response to THIS is.

1) DX were WAY over as faces.

2) Can Evolution be just as 'over' as DX was?

Elaborating on point#2 a little more, my concern is that Evolution would basically become another 'Nation of Domination' if Orton took over. It would basically become a mid-card heel stable, of which the fans don't care too much about.

Unless a strong face stable opposes Evolution, or Evolution themselves can get over as faces (like DX), is it really in the WWE's best interests to have Orton 'take over' Evolution and start a new group?

Here is what I'm thinking:

If Triple H is destined to break away from Evolution, end Evolution altogether

I mean - do you really want to see guys like Shelton Benjamin or Maven be added to this 'NEW' Evolution anyways? For a guy like Benjamin, it would hold him down more than anything (since he would play second fiddle to Orton). Maven on the other hand, could make the stable look 'less elite' (Maven is not exactly a 'big name' in the company). Granted - DX added guys like Road Dogg Jesse James, X-Pac, and Billy Gunn, but the group CLICKED right away........abd became WAY over with the fans. I DOUBT that Evolution can do that.

Here is what I'd do with the current members of Evolution:

Dave Batista: Send him to Smackdown, and eventually mold him into a "Lesnar/Goldberg-type" wrestler (i.e. a guy who dominates his matches, and eventually gets pushed to the main-events). Unlike Lesnar however, don't give Batista 'too much too soon' in terms of success.

Randy Orton w/Ric Flair: Keep Orton aligned with Ric Flair. Let Orton be a singles star, with Flair as manager.

Triple H: Have him turn face, and have him feud with Orton (with Flair). With Flair and Orton on one side, perhaps Shawn Michaels and Triple H could have a 'common enemy' of sorts......and fight the two men.

p.s. On a COMPLETELY unrelated note, I also think it's important for the WWE to work on putting Lita and Matt back together (and pushing Matt w/Lita as a strong babyface). I also think Kane needs to turn face, and become a sadistic face that destroys random heels.

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Heyman Father of Hinduship Posts: 21,083	DISCUSSION - Would Evolution ever work as a FACE stable like Degeneration X? DISCUSSION - Would Evolution ever work as a FACE stable like Degeneration X? I can't remember if I've posted a topic similar to this or not, but I'm too lazy to check. Anyways - here is my concern: 1) Evolution will break up (Orton and Batista boot out Flair and Triple H or something). 2) Orton becomes the leader of the group. My initial concern of something like this happening, was that Evolution would become a mid-card stable for awhile (since Orton won't be main-eventing for the next half year or so anyways). In rebuttal to this concern of mine, many people pointed out that Degeneration X also became a mid-card stable when Triple H initially took over. My response to THIS is. 1) DX were WAY over as faces. 2) Can Evolution be just as 'over' as DX was? Elaborating on point#2 a little more, my concern is that Evolution would basically become another 'Nation of Domination' if Orton took over. It would basically become a mid-card heel stable, of which the fans don't care too much about. Unless a strong face stable opposes Evolution, or Evolution themselves can get over as faces (like DX), is it really in the WWE's best interests to have Orton 'take over' Evolution and start a new group? Here is what I'm thinking: If Triple H is destined to break away from Evolution, end Evolution altogether I mean - do you really want to see guys like Shelton Benjamin or Maven be added to this 'NEW' Evolution anyways? For a guy like Benjamin, it would hold him down more than anything (since he would play second fiddle to Orton). Maven on the other hand, could make the stable look 'less elite' (Maven is not exactly a 'big name' in the company). Granted - DX added guys like Road Dogg Jesse James, X-Pac, and Billy Gunn, but the group CLICKED right away........abd became WAY over with the fans. I DOUBT that Evolution can do that. Here is what I'd do with the current members of Evolution: Dave Batista: Send him to Smackdown, and eventually mold him into a "Lesnar/Goldberg-type" wrestler (i.e. a guy who dominates his matches, and eventually gets pushed to the main-events). Unlike Lesnar however, don't give Batista 'too much too soon' in terms of success. Randy Orton w/Ric Flair: Keep Orton aligned with Ric Flair. Let Orton be a singles star, with Flair as manager. Triple H: Have him turn face, and have him feud with Orton (with Flair). With Flair and Orton on one side, perhaps Shawn Michaels and Triple H could have a 'common enemy' of sorts......and fight the two men. p.s. On a COMPLETELY unrelated note, I also think it's important for the WWE to work on putting Lita and Matt back together (and pushing Matt w/Lita as a strong babyface). I also think Kane needs to turn face, and become a sadistic face that destroys random heels.