Re: Verbose Minch Neg Rep On Playing Pirated Games

**Kalyx triaD** · 11-22-2009, 12:52 AM

I felt I should make this public rather than send Minch a PM on the matter.

I do not believe we are entitled to pirated products of any kind (movies, games, music). I've had many debates with my brother on the matter, as he's been an avid purchaser of pirated games. He has burned games into the high 50s, many of them I've enjoyed.

But I do not support them. I have never, in my fucking life, gave a dime to some pirate for any media. I aim to be a apart of the entertainment industry, it would be treacherous to partake in the under-hand market. These products cost money to make, then some bastard copies it on some blank disc and profits from another person's/team's work. This is wrong to me. BUT, I've played pirated games. Somehow, this makes me a hypocrite to some. Let's analyze this in ways most of you can understand:

Let's say I make a movie. It cost me $2,000 altogether. I print a mess of DVDs and aim to sell enough to make that money back and then some. I want the production, promotion, and distribution cost back to break even and then money on top to profit. This is how the entertainment industry works in a nutshell. Smart-asses, spare me the details.

Now let's say some techie with blank DVD-Rs buys one of my copies. He goes on to copy the movie on several blank DVDs and sell it for $1. The quality is on par, save for presentation issues, of course. I've been selling official copies for $10. Now while I believe most people would buy official, a great deal of potential customers are gonna go for the pirated deal. That's money out of my pocket and in to his, who had nothing to do with the production/promotion/distribution. He banks because he had a DVD burner. My creativity and production is his profit. If that isn't wrong to you, fuck off.

Now, my beef - as the fucking creator - would not be with whoever the purchaser of the pirated copy watches the movie with. Why would it be? Let's use logic, guys: That person has nothing to do with the spread of piracy. He/she made no orders or copies - I can care less if they're watching a pirated movie. I suppose you could wager that by them watching it, they'd be motivated not to buy it - but that's something I'd have to live with whether the movie's pirated or not. My gripe is the very real loss of money taking place by the pirate and his customers.

So how is me playing pirated games harming the developer/publisher when I'm pretty fucking sure I'm buying those games anyway?

Shit, I've brought games while my bro was getting burned copies back when I was working - so fuck that hypocrisy shit. Get the facts before calling shit, boys.

Discuss.

11-22-2009, 12:52 AM	#1
Kalyx triaD Raw Video Footage Posts: 45,951	Re: Verbose Minch Neg Rep On Playing Pirated Games I felt I should make this public rather than send Minch a PM on the matter. I do not believe we are entitled to pirated products of any kind (movies, games, music). I've had many debates with my brother on the matter, as he's been an avid purchaser of pirated games. He has burned games into the high 50s, many of them I've enjoyed. But I do not support them. I have never, in my fucking life, gave a dime to some pirate for any media. I aim to be a apart of the entertainment industry, it would be treacherous to partake in the under-hand market. These products cost money to make, then some bastard copies it on some blank disc and profits from another person's/team's work. This is wrong to me. BUT, I've played pirated games. Somehow, this makes me a hypocrite to some. Let's analyze this in ways most of you can understand: Let's say I make a movie. It cost me $2,000 altogether. I print a mess of DVDs and aim to sell enough to make that money back and then some. I want the production, promotion, and distribution cost back to break even and then money on top to profit. This is how the entertainment industry works in a nutshell. Smart-asses, spare me the details. Now let's say some techie with blank DVD-Rs buys one of my copies. He goes on to copy the movie on several blank DVDs and sell it for $1. The quality is on par, save for presentation issues, of course. I've been selling official copies for $10. Now while I believe most people would buy official, a great deal of potential customers are gonna go for the pirated deal. That's money out of my pocket and in to his, who had nothing to do with the production/promotion/distribution. He banks because he had a DVD burner. My creativity and production is his profit. If that isn't wrong to you, fuck off. Now, my beef - as the fucking creator - would not be with whoever the purchaser of the pirated copy watches the movie with. Why would it be? Let's use logic, guys: That person has nothing to do with the spread of piracy. He/she made no orders or copies - I can care less if they're watching a pirated movie. I suppose you could wager that by them watching it, they'd be motivated not to buy it - but that's something I'd have to live with whether the movie's pirated or not. My gripe is the very real loss of money taking place by the pirate and his customers. So how is me playing pirated games harming the developer/publisher when I'm pretty fucking sure I'm buying those games anyway? Shit, I've brought games while my bro was getting burned copies back when I was working - so fuck that hypocrisy shit. Get the facts before calling shit, boys. Discuss.