The chances of James Toney winning on Sat?

**El Capitano Gatisto** · 08-25-2010, 06:35 PM

I think very good boxers tend to ditch the orthodox stance with experience and can rely on their own footwork and balance to maximise their movement and punching power. I try to watch a couple of the pro guys in our gym to pick stuff up but the two best guys fight almost square on, they're just ridiculously quick at shifting their weight and moving their feet, also their ability to swivel about their central axis to generate speed and power of punches is absurd. When I go in sparring with them, I have an enormous reach advantage so I can tag them a few times but they usually just circle around out of my jabbing range then dance in and chin me a few times before I even react.

Some of the stand-up stuff in UFC looks awkward and sluggish. Like Dos Santos vs. Nelson last time out, which was virtually all on the feet, looked pretty clumsy and Dos Santos' punches had very little weight behind them. This was two very big guys, but still, it didn't look good.

Shin and inside leg kicks look really fucking annoying, but if a really good boxer learned to read them in an opponent, they could so some serious damage with a murderous hook because the guard tends to come down when the kicks are thrown and the kicker is obviously off balance. There was a UFC fight recently where I saw this happening, will try to remember which.

08-25-2010, 06:35 PM	#11
El Capitano Gatisto World Class Raconteur Posts: 29,478	I think very good boxers tend to ditch the orthodox stance with experience and can rely on their own footwork and balance to maximise their movement and punching power. I try to watch a couple of the pro guys in our gym to pick stuff up but the two best guys fight almost square on, they're just ridiculously quick at shifting their weight and moving their feet, also their ability to swivel about their central axis to generate speed and power of punches is absurd. When I go in sparring with them, I have an enormous reach advantage so I can tag them a few times but they usually just circle around out of my jabbing range then dance in and chin me a few times before I even react. Some of the stand-up stuff in UFC looks awkward and sluggish. Like Dos Santos vs. Nelson last time out, which was virtually all on the feet, looked pretty clumsy and Dos Santos' punches had very little weight behind them. This was two very big guys, but still, it didn't look good. Shin and inside leg kicks look really fucking annoying, but if a really good boxer learned to read them in an opponent, they could so some serious damage with a murderous hook because the guard tends to come down when the kicks are thrown and the kicker is obviously off balance. There was a UFC fight recently where I saw this happening, will try to remember which.