DISCUSSION - A few *thoughts* about EVOLUTION, D'Lo Brown, RAW thoughts, and SHOWBERG

**Heyman** · 05-12-2004, 01:11 AM

DISCUSSION - A few *thoughts* about EVOLUTION, D'Lo Brown, RAW thoughts, and SHOWBERG

-First off, Evolution: Do you think it's possible for Evolution to NEVER break up? (atleast in the immediate future). Furthermore, do you think it's possible for Triple H to "put over" Randy Orton without actually JOBBING to him? Let me explain:

Let's say that Triple H does NOT win the World title within the next half year or so. Benoit still remains champ. Eventually, Orton gets a title shot and wins. Does Triple H get jealous? No. He continues to be a 'team player' and applauds Orton. 8 months or so after that (or whenever Batista becomes champ......by defeating whoever defeated Orton), Triple H, Flair, and Orton support Batista.

Here are some advantages I see in this.

-Evolution gets a true "identity".........and doesn't have a 'revolving door' of members like we saw in the nWo a few years ago.

-We will never have to see an awkward Triple H face turn.

-Because a guy like Triple H would be SUPPORTING a guy like Orton while Orton is World champion, it would almost be like having two world champions.........whoever is feuding with a heel Triple H, would be in a 'main-event like' match. Eventually when a guy like Batista becomes champ, it would be like having THREE world champs (which ever face is going up against Orton and Triple H).

Eventually however - I'd like to see Flair get replaced by Shawn Michaels........and I DON"T care if this makes Evolution look like "DX".

D'Lo Brown: Do you think there is ANY chance of D"Lo Brown being re-hired by the WWE? If not, I think it would be a great TRAGEDY. D'Lo may not have been the best wrestler, but he wasn't the worst either (if you're going to use the whole "Droz" incident against him, then let me remind you that Owen Hart almost crippled Austin........and Owen was one of the best wrestlers of all-time). ACCIDENTS happen. ....but I digress.

D'Lo was great in eliciting crowd responses.......heel or face. During D'Lo last run in the WWE, it was OBVIOUS that the fans wanted to REACT to him (they cheered and booed loudly towards him when required).

I think D'Lo would be an excellent fit on Smackdown right now. He would be a HELL of a lot better than guys like Bradshaw and Hardcore Holly.

I also firmly believe that D'Lo Brown could have been a CREDIBLE main-eventer.

Some Raw Thoughts

-Tyson Tomko sucks dick. And I''m not talking about Christian's either. He just sucks. I'd like to see him get sent down to OVW.

-I wonder how long the popularity of EUGENE will last? His face reaction was about 5 times bigger than Edge's.

. I'm pretty sure Regal will grow to love Eugene by the way. Speaking of these two, I think they'll become a tag team in the future (this year's version of Booker T/Goldust).

-I think it was stupid to NOT have Benoit be a part of Raw last night. Benoit needs to be getting as much TV time as possible right now. He needs to be KNOWN as the #1 guy. Would the WWE have given Austin or The Rock 'no air-time' during their peaks? The women's match could've been replaced by a Benoit promo or something.

-I wonder about Dave Batista's future. He seems to be of the same 'mold' as Lesnar and Goldberg (actually - more along the lines of Goldberg because he also had lackluster wrestling ability). Nonetheless - do you think that Batista could be able to draw one day?

-Hope Jericho wins the Battle Royale next week. I also hope that he has TWO tremendous matches with Benoit (at the next PPV, and the one after that). In both cases, I hope Benoit goes over clean in two very close matches.

-I'd like to see Edge re-unite with Christian. They can both "share" Trish (not only as a manager, but as an "implied" sex partner)

I'd still have E&C be singles competitors, but they can do the odd tag match as well. If Edge goes back with Christian, he might...........uhh you know........get a good crowd reaction?

-What the heck are the WWE going to do with Rhyno? It seems like one week he's getting an IMPRESSIVE win, and doing jack shit the next. I hope Rhyno gets a decent push as a face. I think he can be made to look somewhat "Goldberg-esque" if he convincingly defeats his opponents (and as result, get loud cheers).

SHOWBERG:

Ok - THIS will probably sound stupid, but here me out (I suggested this idea in another thread). What if Big Show returned to Smackdown as Showberg?......a parody/ripoff gimmick of Goldberg.

Big Show would be bald, would have the same music and attire as Goldberg, and would use the same moveset (on top of the moves that Big Show already has). So for example - SHOWBERG could spear, jackhammer, and then chokseslam his opponent for the victory.

I *KNOW* that this idea may sound STUPID!..........but please hear me out! Here are some advantages that I see with this.

1) It renews Big Show's character: I think one could argue that Big Show is pretty much dead as a draw (not that he ever was, but still). Furthermore - I highly doubt that Big Show will get another title reign anytime soon. If Big Show goes the route that he's going now, then he'll just become a guy that puts over up-and-coming faces. Whoop-dee.

2) The fans seem to love comedic characters: Take a look at Eugene right now. The guy is getting popped huge. Granted this may not last too long, but it's obvious that the fans are loving it. The difference between Eugene and Big Sho.....er SHOWBERG however, is that SHOWBERG can be taken seriously as a main-eventer (seeing as how Big Show has main-evented and won the world title before).

3) This "Showberg" character would fit well with Big Show's "real life" humorous personality: Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm almost certain that the fans would pop BIGTIME for Showberg. Even though it would be as a 'joke', I'm pretty sure that the "Showberg" chants would be CONSTANT.

4) If "Showberg" can squash his opponents convincingly (i.e. like Goldberg......except with the added chokeslam), I think the fans will respect him more than just a joke. Because of the 'humor/parody' attached with the gimmick (combined with the fact that Big Show doesn't win "all" of his matches in less than 30 seconds), I don't think the fans would ever turn of SHOWBERG like they did with Goldberg (due to the fans being frustrated at the fact that Goldberg sometimes didn't win as quick as he would in his WCW matches).

What happens if Big Show DOESN"T pan out as a main-eventer? (with this gimmick). No worries - he can do what he'd be doing with his "Big Show" gimmick......he can put over up-and-comers (except this time, he'd be a face).

If anything - I think this "Showberg" character could help DRAW for Smackdown. But then again - it could be the alcohol talking.

05-12-2004, 01:11 AM	#1
Heyman Father of Hinduship Posts: 21,083	*DISCUSSION - A few thoughts* about EVOLUTION, D'Lo Brown, RAW thoughts, and SHOWBERG DISCUSSION - A few thoughts about EVOLUTION, D'Lo Brown, RAW thoughts, and SHOWBERG** -First off, Evolution: Do you think it's possible for Evolution to NEVER break up? (atleast in the immediate future). Furthermore, do you think it's possible for Triple H to "put over" Randy Orton without actually JOBBING to him? Let me explain: Let's say that Triple H does NOT win the World title within the next half year or so. Benoit still remains champ. Eventually, Orton gets a title shot and wins. Does Triple H get jealous? No. He continues to be a 'team player' and applauds Orton. 8 months or so after that (or whenever Batista becomes champ......by defeating whoever defeated Orton), Triple H, Flair, and Orton support Batista. Here are some advantages I see in this. -Evolution gets a true "identity".........and doesn't have a 'revolving door' of members like we saw in the nWo a few years ago. -We will never have to see an awkward Triple H face turn. -Because a guy like Triple H would be SUPPORTING a guy like Orton while Orton is World champion, it would almost be like having two world champions.........whoever is feuding with a heel Triple H, would be in a 'main-event like' match. Eventually when a guy like Batista becomes champ, it would be like having THREE world champs (which ever face is going up against Orton and Triple H). Eventually however - I'd like to see Flair get replaced by Shawn Michaels........and I DON"T care if this makes Evolution look like "DX". D'Lo Brown: Do you think there is ANY chance of D"Lo Brown being re-hired by the WWE? If not, I think it would be a great TRAGEDY. D'Lo may not have been the best wrestler, but he wasn't the worst either (if you're going to use the whole "Droz" incident against him, then let me remind you that Owen Hart almost crippled Austin........and Owen was one of the best wrestlers of all-time). ACCIDENTS happen. ....but I digress. D'Lo was great in eliciting crowd responses.......heel or face. During D'Lo last run in the WWE, it was OBVIOUS that the fans wanted to REACT to him (they cheered and booed loudly towards him when required). I think D'Lo would be an excellent fit on Smackdown right now. He would be a HELL of a lot better than guys like Bradshaw and Hardcore Holly. I also firmly believe that D'Lo Brown could have been a CREDIBLE main-eventer. Some Raw Thoughts -Tyson Tomko sucks dick. And I''m not talking about Christian's either. He just sucks. I'd like to see him get sent down to OVW. -I wonder how long the popularity of EUGENE will last? His face reaction was about 5 times bigger than Edge's. . I'm pretty sure Regal will grow to love Eugene by the way. Speaking of these two, I think they'll become a tag team in the future (this year's version of Booker T/Goldust). -I think it was stupid to NOT have Benoit be a part of Raw last night. Benoit needs to be getting as much TV time as possible right now. He needs to be KNOWN as the #1 guy. Would the WWE have given Austin or The Rock 'no air-time' during their peaks? The women's match could've been replaced by a Benoit promo or something. -I wonder about Dave Batista's future. He seems to be of the same 'mold' as Lesnar and Goldberg (actually - more along the lines of Goldberg because he also had lackluster wrestling ability). Nonetheless - do you think that Batista could be able to draw one day? -Hope Jericho wins the Battle Royale next week. I also hope that he has TWO tremendous matches with Benoit (at the next PPV, and the one after that). In both cases, I hope Benoit goes over clean in two very close matches. -I'd like to see Edge re-unite with Christian. They can both "share" Trish (not only as a manager, but as an "implied" sex partner) I'd still have E&C be singles competitors, but they can do the odd tag match as well. If Edge goes back with Christian, he might...........uhh you know........get a good crowd reaction? -What the heck are the WWE going to do with Rhyno? It seems like one week he's getting an IMPRESSIVE win, and doing jack shit the next. I hope Rhyno gets a decent push as a face. I think he can be made to look somewhat "Goldberg-esque" if he convincingly defeats his opponents (and as result, get loud cheers). SHOWBERG: Ok - THIS will probably sound stupid, but here me out (I suggested this idea in another thread). What if Big Show returned to Smackdown as Showberg?......a parody/ripoff gimmick of Goldberg. Big Show would be bald, would have the same music and attire as Goldberg, and would use the same moveset (on top of the moves that Big Show already has). So for example - SHOWBERG could spear, jackhammer, and then chokseslam his opponent for the victory. I KNOW that this idea may sound STUPID!..........but please hear me out! Here are some advantages that I see with this. 1) It renews Big Show's character: I think one could argue that Big Show is pretty much dead as a draw (not that he ever was, but still). Furthermore - I highly doubt that Big Show will get another title reign anytime soon. If Big Show goes the route that he's going now, then he'll just become a guy that puts over up-and-coming faces. Whoop-dee. 2) The fans seem to love comedic characters: Take a look at Eugene right now. The guy is getting popped huge. Granted this may not last too long, but it's obvious that the fans are loving it. The difference between Eugene and Big Sho.....er SHOWBERG however, is that SHOWBERG can be taken seriously as a main-eventer (seeing as how Big Show has main-evented and won the world title before). 3) This "Showberg" character would fit well with Big Show's "real life" humorous personality: Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm almost certain that the fans would pop BIGTIME for Showberg. Even though it would be as a 'joke', I'm pretty sure that the "Showberg" chants would be CONSTANT. 4) If "Showberg" can squash his opponents convincingly (i.e. like Goldberg......except with the added chokeslam), I think the fans will respect him more than just a joke. Because of the 'humor/parody' attached with the gimmick (combined with the fact that Big Show doesn't win "all" of his matches in less than 30 seconds), I don't think the fans would ever turn of SHOWBERG like they did with Goldberg (due to the fans being frustrated at the fact that Goldberg sometimes didn't win as quick as he would in his WCW matches). What happens if Big Show DOESN"T pan out as a main-eventer? (with this gimmick). No worries - he can do what he'd be doing with his "Big Show" gimmick......he can put over up-and-comers (except this time, he'd be a face). If anything - I think this "Showberg" character could help DRAW for Smackdown. But then again - it could be the alcohol talking. Last edited by Heyman; 05-12-2004 at 04:05 AM.