PG Discussion Thread

[Rock Bottom]

There's a TLDR version at the bottom.

It's clear that when it comes to opinions, even though there are some obvious trends on this board, there are a healthy amount of differences. Some of them come as a surprise to a lot of people. There were a lot of instances of this occurring in the Dolph Ziggler vs. The Miz thread. Enough that in the next round of Better Wrestler, people were still acknowledging the thought that maybe Ziggler should not have beaten The Miz.

It's easy for me to judge who's better, even if the decision was close. It's Dolph Ziggler. Why? Because I said so. That's a pretty stupid reason, right? Like most people, I chose the "short and sweet" approach. "So and so is better because of this and that." Then again, in order to truly explain why I voted the way I did, I would probably have to do a fair amount of typing. If I made such an assertion and truly explained myself to people who were wondering how The Miz could lose (he's better because they said so), if anyone bothered to reply, there would be a debate.

Sometimes this happens. Two or more people can have a healthy conversation, with opposing views, to at the very least, back up their claim and give weight and meaning to their opinion. Often times, this isn't going to happen. People will pick apart each other's posts, descend into useless drivel, and focus more on a poster rather than what they're saying or trying to say.

You might see something like this:

Originally Posted by Ziggler is a Strong Dude Ziggler has something Barrett doesn't have, it's called charisma!

Originally Posted by Ph. D. in Social Sciences You wouldn't know charisma if it BLEW A HUGE LOAD ALL OVER YOUR FACE, YOU MOTHER FUCKER, YOU!

Or maybe this:

Originally Posted by CM Punk Ball Drop Advocate They could have done more when CM Punk had so much momentum.

Originally Posted by The "IWC" Whistleblower Just like the IWC to bitch about a main event push!

Point is, there are differences, but why? Everyone is entitled to their opinions. You're even entitled to opinions about opinions. People are often looking to share those opinions. You talk about wrestling on wrestling websites, right? Now, the angelic nature of human beings aside, sometimes it is just easier to call someone a moron. It represents a fundamental disagreement to such proportions that you have no choice but to call them stupid. The guy sitting at the other end might not be as stupid as you think. He just might have different criteria for forming his "unearthly" opinions or "bitching" about something.

Sadly, this doesn't really help defend against the deterioration of a perfectly debatable topic. Rather than fling poop at each other, it might help to know why we say the things we do and think what we think. It might also help not to be a complete Nazi about your own standards of wrestling, or the discussion thereof. I've been on both ends of the spectrum. And to be honest, I've realized that for the most point, I actually enjoy learning about the perceptions and experiences of other people more than I thought.

It's a lot more rewarding than shitting on a guy or arguing about something moronic and irrelevant. It's also much easier to get a healthy discussion going if you're not arguing with a bunch of people about who's stupid and who isn't. And every now and then, you're going to find yourself agreeing with people you usually don't.

Obviously, not everyone wants to sit there and write an essay about what they think, or why they think what someone said is complete bull shit. Like I said before, it's easier just to use "moron" or sarcasm. Sarcasm is fun. This is 2011, and Full House has been off the air for years. But for those of you who prefer to have a discussion absent of your standard bickering, or who happen to be in the "down swing" of manic-depressive behavior, do so in here.

I'm curious to see if this could work.

TLDR: Don't be a dick in this thread. If you feel you have something to contribute to a topic, or something to say; whether or not it is currently being discussed in another thread; and you want to do it without being completely derailed, do it in here. I would greatly appreciate it if a mod could find it in their HEART OF HEARTS to keep this thread "clean."