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Old 06-27-2004, 04:10 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
I'd suggest the Moore fans here check out this site:

www.bowlingfortruth.com

But I highly doubt any of you will read it, since you'll be too eager to dismiss the writer (and most likely myself) as a gun-totin' moron hick.
Let's look at some of these:


- 'Evil' Rock Music: I suspect it's phrased as "evil rock music" instead of "demonic" or some more appropriate term to trivialize the phrase and thereby trivializing the argument and make it sound like more of a judgmental puritanical term.

Why would he choose "demonic," either? That's absurd, and makes the author sound as slanted as they claim Moore is.

- Bad Parenting: Interesting that Moore thinks this is a stupid thing to blame a shooting on seeing as he uses it later in the movie. When manipulating the Kayla Rolland shooting, Moore blames the occurrence on lack of parenting which he in turn blames on Dick Clark.

Actually, he blames Welfare to Work. He tries to interview Dick as to why he's going along with the program. Nowhere, do you take this person seriously? Already, just in the title section, I've found two problems.

Nonsense to blame Manson, but plausible to blame the news and the military? Moore doesn't explain this odd sense logic. He doesn't back up his claim that bowling and illicit glorified violence are on the same level of motivating violent acts at any point in the film. He simply says they are, says it plainly and in an obvious manner and seeks to make you feel foolish if you challenge it. Don't be fooled.


but it makes perfect sense to blameManson, even though the Columbine kids had a sum total of one Manson record, and they couldn't tie it to other acts. Meanwhile, where's the acute tie between Manson and violence? I'm sure you've got a ton of studies that confirm this...

Moore's parallel of bowling with the kids other interests is inherently dishonest, seeing as there is no evidence to suggest the kids were bowling fanatics, but tons that prove their interest in the other culprits -- so therefore it is NOT by any means 'just as logical to blame bowling' for the murders.

but there was proof they were Manson fanatics? Oh wait, there wasn't. Thanks for slanting your own shit, retard.

Since Moore seriously poses bowling as an equally plausible contributor to murder than anything else suggested, let us explore exactly what effect the 2 boys ideology had on them. An article in the web publication Salon.com (1), by Dave Cullen titled Kill Mankind. No One Should Survive, reports on, among other things, the writings of Eric Harris in his diary. He says: "Kill mankind. No one should survive."

Evidence, including information found in the article also indicates that Harris was a good Darwinist, an evolutionist. One source is reported as saying that when the murders began, "Harris tore off his trench coat to expose a white T-shirt reading "Natural Selection.'" One investigator who has seen Harris' writings says: "[He] talks a lot about natural selection and that kind of leads into his admiration of Hitler and Nazism and their 'final solution' -- that we, the human race have interrupted or disrupted natural selection by inventing vaccines and stuff like that."


Wow. Wouldn't this actually PROVE the point that they weren't motivated by Manson, the very essence of the movie's rants on media scare tactics?

Unless, you're prepared to tie Manson to Nazis and the Final Solution.


The lead investigator on the Columbine murders, Kate Battan, also mentions the Harris/Klebold desire for fame. She says, paraphrased, that she thinks this was "the single biggest reason" the mass murders were committed. It is said that other key investigators agreed with this assessment. Battan says the writings of Harris and Klebold were littered with comments about their expected glory:

See?

The main cause. Not manson, not video games. Funny that. Ironically, the next section is entitled "whakco Attacko Alert." Pot, Kettle, Kettle, pot.

Nowhere, don't be a moron. Don't let someone else think for you, even if they say the things you want to hear. I didn't even need to defend Moore, just attack this fuckwit's bullshit logic.


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