A bit old, and probaby a moot point by now, but ECW

**BigDaddyCool** · 03-10-2005, 02:01 PM

I've been watching a lot of that Rise and Fall of ECW lately. And you know at the end, Paul Heyman is saying ECW died because it couldn't find another network in time, and that is the only reason it died. For some reason I don't buy that.

This is just me thinkin', and I don't know shit about the acctaul workings of the wrestling business, though I do know a thing or 2 about general business.

I think the real reasons it fail was because of what Bubba and DVon had to say about Heyman not letting other people help him. Acctaully, I'm going to say that ECW death started back when Paul did have people help him. He had the wrong people help. Sure, by having the wrestlers also work the phones, and get the date set and all of that other stuff, it can save money in the long run. But he never got people just to do that kind of stuff, he needed to get a back office so he could grow.

It is like having the same guy take your order then make you food. Sure it works with a short order cook in a lunch van, but when you start growing as a resturant, you need a cook and waiter/cashier/whatever.

Also, by having the talent do all the extra work, they became harder to let go. So when they leave to ply there trade elsewhere (i.e. wrestle), not only did he lose a wrestler, he also lost his graphic designer, or his venue booker, or his book keeper or his whatever. And I'm willing to bet he lost trust in getting someone else to do it because they will just leave too.

So, while he may have saved money in the beginning, he lost it in the end. If he had a graphic designer do the T-shirts and knew the business of graphic design and all of that instead of Taz, the guy could have probably knew how to save more money buy t-shirt in bulk and where to look, and how to court vendors and such. Or if he had a business manager book all the venues instead of Bubba, they could have worked about better deals with venues and so forth.

Then there is the fact that by the time ECW died, grunge was dead too (not the wrestler, the music scene). That and for some retard reason Paul didn't want to give up that crappy production value and try to make them look more professional. But no, he wanted to keep the same shitty production that made ECW have porno quality production values. Hell, I've seen pornos (not by Playboy) that had better production values than ECW.

I guess Paul didn't realize you can't run a Wal-mart Supercenter like a Mom and Pop grocery store.

Plus that whole thing about not pay his talent.

03-10-2005, 02:01 PM	#1
BigDaddyCool Pelvic Sorcerer Posts: 64,762	A bit old, and probaby a moot point by now, but ECW I've been watching a lot of that Rise and Fall of ECW lately. And you know at the end, Paul Heyman is saying ECW died because it couldn't find another network in time, and that is the only reason it died. For some reason I don't buy that. This is just me thinkin', and I don't know shit about the acctaul workings of the wrestling business, though I do know a thing or 2 about general business. I think the real reasons it fail was because of what Bubba and DVon had to say about Heyman not letting other people help him. Acctaully, I'm going to say that ECW death started back when Paul did have people help him. He had the wrong people help. Sure, by having the wrestlers also work the phones, and get the date set and all of that other stuff, it can save money in the long run. But he never got people just to do that kind of stuff, he needed to get a back office so he could grow. It is like having the same guy take your order then make you food. Sure it works with a short order cook in a lunch van, but when you start growing as a resturant, you need a cook and waiter/cashier/whatever. Also, by having the talent do all the extra work, they became harder to let go. So when they leave to ply there trade elsewhere (i.e. wrestle), not only did he lose a wrestler, he also lost his graphic designer, or his venue booker, or his book keeper or his whatever. And I'm willing to bet he lost trust in getting someone else to do it because they will just leave too. So, while he may have saved money in the beginning, he lost it in the end. If he had a graphic designer do the T-shirts and knew the business of graphic design and all of that instead of Taz, the guy could have probably knew how to save more money buy t-shirt in bulk and where to look, and how to court vendors and such. Or if he had a business manager book all the venues instead of Bubba, they could have worked about better deals with venues and so forth. Then there is the fact that by the time ECW died, grunge was dead too (not the wrestler, the music scene). That and for some retard reason Paul didn't want to give up that crappy production value and try to make them look more professional. But no, he wanted to keep the same shitty production that made ECW have porno quality production values. Hell, I've seen pornos (not by Playboy) that had better production values than ECW. I guess Paul didn't realize you can't run a Wal-mart Supercenter like a Mom and Pop grocery store. Plus that whole thing about not pay his talent.