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Tito tore an ACL
it said on ufc.com in the 1st round. That's horrible news, doesn't it take nearly a year to recover from that? So that's why the fight went the distance i bet if healthy Tito woulda probably finished off Forrest.
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Damnit Rob Harvey tell me how you d/led the fight
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I had Tito dominating the first. Joe Rogan is a mong. I usually like him but he was totally riding Forrest cock when he said it wasn't quite a 10-8 round. Tito nearly ended the fight and Forrest did nothing so what the fuck have to got to do to get a 10-8 round?
Forrest blatantly won the second. No debating anywhere. I had the third drawn. At a push, I would have given it to Tito. Not just due to the takedown either. Having one takedown doesn't mean shit. This isn't boxing so taking it to the mat should mean the same as a good punch or strong submission skills. Bonnar beating Jardine the other week was a bigger robbery and I thought that was close to. |
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I'm not happy with the stoppage in the title fight, but I seem to be the only one. If Sylvia was fighting some nobody it would've been fine, but this was a fucking title fight. You have to give it more of a chance than that. Sylvia does not deserve to be the champ, and I don't just mean because of this fight.
Also, 10-8 first round for Tito Nate Quarry put up more of a fight against Franklin than Forrest did against Tito in the first. |
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Disagree entirely with Arlovski's finish. He took like 7 shots unprotected to the head and admitted himself they should have stopped it. Best thing for the division really. If Arlovski won then they'd be struggling hard to get another fight for him. Now they have a rematch as well as others who might fight Sylvia before then.
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He braced himself before he hit the ground and he was trying to put up his hand up to stop the punches. It may not have been great defense, but the rule is 'intelligent defense' not 'good defense.'
I couldn't really hear the after fight interview very well, but the impression I got from it was that the ref is the one who makes the decisions and he wasn't going to argue it. Not necessarily because he thinks he was beat, but because he respects the ref. |
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Come on mate. Arlovski hit the floor and took 3 punches whilst on his knees and at least 7 to the head when he was on his front. He only had his one hand slightly covering his face and his other was trapped under his body. How many unanswered punches are you meant to let go before you stop fights? Fighters need to be protected. It was a good stoppage.
Watched the Ortiz vs. Griffin fight 3 times now and I'm more convinced now more than ever it was 29-28 to Ortiz. There is no way you can ever justify to me that the first round wasn't a 10-8. Last round was a debate but that's what you get with judges. The judge who scored it 30-27 needs to be drug tested. |
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Rob you are toying with my fragile, fragile emotions
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So Rob did you upload that Tito fight yet?
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Whole show.
Part 1 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VOGVBY3V Part2 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=22YEEYZ2 Not mine. from NoDQ. Just saved me a half hour though |
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nvm I lied
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Just saw Griffin vs. Ortiz...razor thin. Both guys benefit from it. Griffin is exactly what he said, a dog who likes to fight. I think the Japanese folk would love him, cuz he's a fuckin warrior.
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He went up big time in my estimation after that fight anyway.
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Forrest won more in that fight than Tito did IMO. Won more in defeat than Tito did winning the decision.
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Tito gained plenty from that fight. He's going to be considered an exciting fighter as opposed to someone who masters in lay and pray. He got booed at the end, but people are goign to want to see him fight.
Both guys benefitted, in different ways. Ortiz re-asserted himself as the Ufc's moneyman IMO. |
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Dana White has said Ortiz vs. Shamrock in July is off. It's now Shamrock vs. Griffin. BAD MOVE!!! You need to keep Shamrock marketable and right now, I'd pick Griffin and about 7 other light heavyweights over him.
Sylvia vs. Arlovski III is on the same show. |
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When do you think Shamrock/Ortiz is going to happen?
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http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=2488
There’s A ‘Spider’ in The House Andrei Arlovski vs. Paul Buentello Landscape Poster By Thomas Gerbasi Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the UFC middleweight division, a ‘Spider’ has made his way into the picture, and he’s looking to sting any and all comers at 185 pounds. Anderson ‘The Spider’ Silva, a feared striker with deadly hands and feet, has inked a multi-fight deal with the premier MMA organization in the world, and UFC fans should start getting ready for this explosive middleweight to make his mark in the division currently ruled by Rich Franklin. “Anderson Silva is one of the most talented fighters in the world, and he will be an excellent addition to the already stacked UFC middleweight division,” said UFC Vice President of Talent Relations Joe Silva (no relation). Hailing from Curitba, Brazil, the 31-year-old Silva – a Muay Thai ace - has made his bones in the fight world with a no nonsense attitude and style that always delivers excitement. A veteran of over five years in MMA, Silva holds victories over the likes of Mach Sakurai, Alexander Otsuka, Carlos Newton, Jorge Rivera, and Jeremy Horn. In his last fight, on April 22, ‘The Spider’ knocked out UFC veteran Tony Fryklund in a single round. Silva’s UFC debut will be announced at a later date. No opponent has been determined. |
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great signing! Ace has some serious competition coming
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Griffin vs. Shamrock has been called off.
It's now Ken Shamrock vs. TITO ORTIZ baby!!! |
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I've seen that also, but I haven't seen it confirmed anywhere yet. Hopefully UFC will say something about it today.
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UFC 60 is coming up on May 27th. Already announced are:
Joe Riggs v Mike Swick Brandon Vera v Assuerio Silva Diego Sanchez v John Alessio and in the Main Event: Matt Hughes v Royce Gracie |
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anybody watch the last PRIDE ppv?
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yeah Overeem had the match in the bag, and then his lack of conditioning caught up with him. I was glad BArnett won, sets up a great grudge match with Fedor although Fedor is gonna tear him up.
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Yeah I really wanna see Hunt vs. Fedor. I mean I think fedor wouldn't struggle to tap him out, but if Hunt kept it standing, he'd still lose cuz Fedor'd find a way to get him to the ground, plus is td and ground defense are a bit suspect, but it'd be a fight, that's for damned sure.
Fedor > god, lol, I can't see him getting beat in the next 3 years. |
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Fedor will definately lose in the next 3 years. No idea who it will be to nor when but some fluke will happen.
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BUMP for
HUGHES vs. GRACIE |
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TUF 4 looks really interesting. Ex UFC fighters will be in the house and will be competing for title shots at the middleweight and welterweight titles as well as a six figure pay day (not contract as they currently have it).
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Rumoured fighters for the show.
185 pounds Jorge Rivera Patrick Cote Charles McCarthy Keith Hackney Gideon Ray Mark Weir Edwin Dewees Travis Lutter 170 pounds Matt Serra Chris Lytle Shonie Carter Rich Clementi Mikey Burnett Pete Spratt Nick Diaz Din Thomas |
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Hackney?? lol
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Swick, Vera, and Diego all won
Swick by tap out Vera by tap out Diego by unanimous decision |
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Damn, Matt Hughes pretty much manhandled Gracie. I thought it woulda been over when he had that armbar or whatever locked on. But I thought it would be a better fight.
I'm no big Diego fan, but im glad he won Alessio wasn't doin shit. |
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I thought Diego was gonna lose the decision until he got Alessio's back in the 3rd, both guys weren't getting a lot, but at least Diego was pushing the fight.
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Great night of fights. I didn't think the card was too impressive, but all of the fights delivered.
Fisher v. Wiman WOW exciting first round followed up by a killer finish in the second Guillard v. That other guy Another impressive knockout Swick v. Riggs Once again Riggs doesn't know how to defend submissions Vera v. Silva Decent fight, Vera is progressing pretty well Alessio v. Sanchez I have a hard time giving this fight to either guy. Sanchez was so ineffective that I don't want to give him any rounds, but at the same time Alessio didn't really try to do much. A 30-27 decision is ridiculous. This fight should've been a split decision with all the judges scoring 29-28. Lister v. Sakara Lister looked very impressive, those sub attempts were insane. Hughes v. Gracie No surprise here. I felt bad for Gracie because you could see in his face that he really didn't expect to lose, especially not that bad. |
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