DISCUSSION - My proposed TEAM CANADA idea (Jericho/Benoit/Edge/Bret Hart, etc.

[Rob]

Originally Posted by Heyman How can you sit their on your arse, and say "such and such will never happen"? I think Vince has proven over the years that ANYTHING can happen within the WWE. This is a guy who hired Eric freakin Bischoff for christ sakes. As far as Bret being 'booed' is concerned, I think he'll always get a mixed crowd reaction if such a thing happened (probably more face reactions than anything, but the responses will be appropriate when needed). I think he'll basically be what Ric Flair is right now (not intially......he'll get popped like crazy initially, but over a decent time span). Remember - Shawn Michaels came back to a huge pop when he joined the nWo. However - he started getting decent heel heat over time (when he sweet chinned Booker T).

After having a stroke, being off TV for 4 years and WWF for 7, he'd get popped out the city, nevermind the building. I can say Bret won't be back doing storylines (he'll probably do an unadvertised farewell) because I know what Bret is like. He isn't Vince McMahon and isn't greedy for money or addicted to the pop. If he was, he would have been back ages ago.

I didn't say anyone would openly 'boo' Bret (atleast that's not what I meant). What I meant to say, was that perhaps some people would be surprised (or may 'boo' a little bit) if they saw HBK being beaten to shit by 5 or 6 men. Granted - it WOULD be Team Canada (and so most people would be cheering loudly anyways), but you may always get a few marky marks who would recognize that Team Canada would be engaging in a heelish act.

I'd go as far as putting my life on the line and say Team Canada would not get single boo from a paying customer in Edmonton.

Forced to do as punishment? Are you for real? I highly doubt that Vince 'forced' Owen into performing that stunt. It was a part of Owen's super hero gimmick at the time.

Where was the WWF title run Vince McMahon promised Owen Hart after Montreal to come back? Where was the "we'll make you as big as Bret in Canada" push? Oh yeah, never happened. Owen was the Blazer because he refused to do a love triangle angle over Debra with Jeff Jarrett. FACT!

As far as Rena Mero is concerned, she once tried to sue Vince for 120 million dollars.

Yeah but she never even got $1 million and she was such a nobody in Hollywood, she had to go back to get her face on TV again. And look who she was kissing as soon as she walked through the door. Vince played her big time!

[Heyman]

Originally Posted by Rob After having a stroke, being off TV for 4 years and WWF for 7, he'd get popped out the city, nevermind the building. I can say Bret won't be back doing storylines (he'll probably do an unadvertised farewell) because I know what Bret is like. He isn't Vince McMahon and isn't greedy for money or addicted to the pop. If he was, he would have been back ages ago.

Have you met Bret in real life? While what you say does seem to be true (i.e. Bret not being greedy for money, the face pop, etc.,), I think a strong part of him wants to please to the utmost. He knows that his fans want to see him on TV. He knows that the fans would love to see him in another angle.

While what you say is probably right, I remain optimistic. "Who knows what can happen" is my whole philosophy.

I'd go as far as putting my life on the line and say Team Canada would not get single boo from a paying customer in Edmonton.

I'd also put my life on the line and say that Jeff Hardy is a homosexual. But yes - I do agree with what you say. I guess I was just trying to take a more 'neutral' stance when I originally made the comment......

Where was the WWF title run Vince McMahon promised Owen Hart after Montreal to come back? Where was the "we'll make you as big as Bret in Canada" push? Oh yeah, never happened. Owen was the Blazer because he refused to do a love triangle angle over Debra with Jeff Jarrett. FACT!

That's a bit of an unfair comment to make. At the time, no one had idea any idea that the whole Austin/Vince angle would become so astronomically huge. Austin was the clear cut top face. Owen could've become a great main-event heel IMO, but he became a part of the whole Nation/DX feud. I wouldn't have had him JOB to Shamrock at Summerslam that year but even then, The Rock was really starting to emerge.....and there was no way the WWE should NOT have pushed him as the top heel.

Maybe the WWE did misuse Owen Hart, but Owen still did a great job in putting over younger talent.

Yeah but she never even got $1 million and she was such a nobody in Hollywood, she had to go back to get her face on TV again. And look who she was kissing as soon as she walked through the door. Vince played her big time!

True. I guess my whole point however, is that Vince doesn't always let past history deal with future transactions. I wouldn't rule out Bret returning based on his shaky history with Vince. Bret wou;dn't come back for the money....he'd come back to please his fans...who just want to see him on TV in any shape or form.