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Old 05-08-2007, 12:22 AM   #41
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At first I thought this thread was about TPWWs kliq.\

I'm saddened to find that it isn't.
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Old 05-08-2007, 12:24 AM   #42
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TPWW's Kliq is a collection of gods amoung posters.

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I would have no problem with HBK getting a farewell run with the title before he retires.

With that said though, there is no belt in the industry that HBK could win that would add to his career. HBK's career is built around him being HBK, not winning a bunch of titles.
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Old 05-08-2007, 12:26 AM   #43
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Or a cancer that is killing TPWW.
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Old 05-08-2007, 12:27 AM   #44
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LMAO! Killing TPWW? Let me tell you something, I've been here since the start, and with all the ups and downs in popularity and useage, since the Kliq started doing their thing, this has been the most active the Wrestling Section has ever been. So don't feed me that shit.
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Old 05-08-2007, 12:29 AM   #45
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Dude, Blitz is the cancer of Tpww.
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Old 05-08-2007, 12:29 AM   #46
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Makes me remember why I quit coming here.
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Old 05-08-2007, 12:30 AM   #47
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Also, I've been here longer than the One. And it is true, the Kliq has made people interested about wrestling again.
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Old 05-08-2007, 12:30 AM   #48
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Old 05-08-2007, 12:31 AM   #49
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Then stop coming by. The lose of you will certainly not mean the rest of TPWW will shirvle up and blow away like a Canadian leaf.
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Nice. Neg repped for an opinion.

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Old 05-08-2007, 12:32 AM   #51
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Then stop coming by. The lose of you will certainly not mean the rest of TPWW will shirvle up and blow away like a Canadian leaf.
Did I ever say it would?
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Old 05-08-2007, 12:35 AM   #52
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Nice. Neg repped for an opinion.

The Kliq promotes individual thought!
I neg repped you for calling me cancer. KK neg reps people for their opinions.
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Old 05-08-2007, 12:45 AM   #53
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The Kliq promotes individual thought!
Actually, since the stand point of the Kliq is to 9 times out of 10 to go against the flow of the status quo of the Internet World, you very well may have just made an actual valid endorsement....regardless of how filled with sarcasim it may have been.
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Old 05-08-2007, 12:47 AM   #54
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HHH, top this:



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Old 05-08-2007, 10:29 AM   #55
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I had to stop when I got to the point where you wrote Piper was hardly a qualifier, and then even tried convincing me HHH was a better heel than him.
You know, Kliq fan though I may be, I never thought I'd be sticking up for HHH like this. Frankly, I'm sick of all this "Piper=Best Heel Ever" nonsense. What I meant about qualifiers was that you can't say Piper was such a great heel because he started riots and got stabbed. Piper was a heel in the time when all you needed to do to be one was to be loud, obnoxious, and insulting, and he was the most loud, obnoxious, and insulting of them all. The fans in HHH's day all understand that the man is giving an act. I don't even buy Piper as the best heel of the 80s; I'd be far more inclined to give that distinction to Ted Dibiase.
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Old 05-08-2007, 10:35 AM   #56
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HHH, top this:



and....
THAT is supposed to be a demonstration of why the man is a great heel? Making out with a chubby-cheeked guy with a mullet and hitting a man with fruit?
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I neg repped you for calling me cancer. KK neg reps people for their opinions.
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Old 05-08-2007, 06:06 PM   #58
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THAT is supposed to be a demonstration of why the man is a great heel? Making out with a chubby-cheeked guy with a mullet and hitting a man with fruit?

No, that's just part of it. Those two segments alone are already better than anything Trips has ever been involved in.

Ted Dibiase was a great heel, but he had a gimmick of I'm better than you because I have lots of money. That's a great way of sticking it to fans who are all hard working class citizens. Of course they're going to boo that man.

Piper acted like himself...he had no gimmick really. He was ahead of his time by a mile...and he drew the ire of everyone just by opening his mouth. He didnt have to flaunt anything. Dibiase never got that kind of heat, otherwise he'd have stuck himself in the main event scene far longer then he ever did.
btw, there is another guy better then HHH at being a heel.

Still though, Piper stands alone. And this has nothing to do with what generation Piper worked in while being a top heel..if we are to believe that the fans back then arent getting that what Piper is doing is all for show and an act, then in actuality my man, you are giving Piper a ton of credit for making them suspend their belief and not only that, but you're saying Piper was so fucking amazing that people actually really thought Piper was exactly like that, and they outright hated the man for it. So basically, Piper was amazing.
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:39 PM   #59
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btw, there is another guy better then HHH at being a heel.

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Old 05-10-2007, 03:47 PM   #60
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Old 05-10-2007, 04:44 PM   #63
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Old 05-11-2007, 10:09 PM   #67
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I think that it isn't fair to compare the qualities that heels from different eras bring to the table. Different times = Different heels. Trips is the top heel for a reason. Edge could be a top heel but he keeps hitting that damned glass ceiling!!!!

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Old 05-11-2007, 10:15 PM   #68
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Piper = An era of wrestling were Kayfabe was still kept. Do you know how easy it is to get drunk rednecks to hate you? Not saying Piper wasn't a GOD at it, but I'm sorry Triple H had to get over a heel in an era were bad ass (which he was) were considered cool. A time when people knew is was staged and even the most casual fans began to cheer for the dirtiest of heels. The point is, if you transplant Piper to the late 90's or you uprooted Triple H to the mid 80's...Hunter comes out on top. I'm sorry, but there has never been a better heel than Triple H was when he first began working his "The Game" gimmick...which wasn't much of a gimmick as it was a collection of character traits, but still...
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Plus, in the ring, Triple H is easily in the top 10 best ring workers of all time. Piper, doesn't crack that list.
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Old 05-11-2007, 10:27 PM   #70
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apokalypse7 does not have that much rep yet (10+)
The man is a great heel. LONG LIVE LEVESQUE!!! *slurp*
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Old 05-11-2007, 10:29 PM   #71
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lol, Piper got the most out of the crowd, Piper could work them much better than HHH ever could for one.

Stop making excuses. Piper is a heel umrivalled by anyone today, especially HHH. HHH isnt even top 5 for this generation. If he was so good, he wouldnt have gotten cheered over Cena while being a heel. Piper would have made Cena look like an uberface, easily.

HHH tries to be cool, tries to do things that will get pops over faces..something a good heel knows not to do.

Piper was badass, something HHH tries way too hard to be, but just cant pull off.

As for matches, Piper was a great brawler. He stuck to that style. HHH is a great bore. Technically better, but hey, the guy is so methodical, he usually relies on his opponent to carry the match enough to keep the fans intrigued.
Piper had them intrigued as soon as the bagpipes started playing up his entrance, he was that fucking amazing.
As an overall performer, and for impact, Piper is elite. HHH is nowhere near it.
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Zen, you may be the first and only person I have ever met who could topple even me in the department of blind fallowing of favorites to the point of making arguments which are so far from the truth that it calls into question your validity as a legit fan in the first place.

I mean, I still am probably better at it than you are, but you're at least giving me a run for my money.
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Fuck Piper had grown fucking men attacking him. I dont care what era you're apart of, grown men should know pro wrestling is NOT REAL.

Piper got them to forget that because he was too fucking good. Or should I say......"That damn good".

Sorry Trips.

HHH needs to keep politicking his way to simply stay atop the ladder. He had HBK get him his first push, then he had the rock and foley make him look decent, then he dumps his boyfriend chyna for the boss' daughter, and he claims a bunch of titles he had no business touching.

See, HHH figured he NEEDED a bunch of awards and titles to look credible, to look like a big time, main event player.

As everyone else stated, Piper didnt need that because he looked the part all on his own, and it's true.....it never failed him.
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Zen, you may be the first and only person I have ever met who could topple even me in the department of blind fallowing of favorites to the point of making arguments which are so far from the truth that it calls into question your validity as a legit fan in the first place.

I mean, I still am probably better at it than you are, but you're at least giving me a run for my money.
I have been questioning your sanity since the begining of this thread, The One.

I am slightly aghast.
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I do think holding ten world titles in 5 years is a little much.
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BAGPIPES!!!! You went nuts for bagpipes?????



you want to see a pop wait till Hunter's music hits.... THAT'S A POP!
well, maybe not the conan one, but nobody's perfect....

The Rock is the Rock because of the NOD/DX feuds, Triple H made the Rock look good too.

Triple H repackaged being a heel, and the heel stable(GOD I miss evolution!)
While 10 straps in 5 years is a bit much, so is holding a strap for a god damned decade HOGAN!

Piper never held a belt because of the orignal glass ceiling.... HOGAN! Championships DO matter, don't fool yourself.
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BAGPIPES!!!! You went nuts for bagpipes?????



you want to see a pop wait till Hunter's music hits.... THAT'S A POP!
well, maybe not the conan one, but nobody's perfect....

The Rock is the Rock because of the NOD/DX feuds, Triple H made the Rock look good too.

Triple H repackaged being a heel, and the heel stable(GOD I miss evolution!)
While 10 straps in 5 years is a bit much, so is holding a strap for a god damned decade HOGAN!

Piper never held a belt because of the orignal glass ceiling.... HOGAN! Championships DO matter, don't fool yourself.
Nah they dont anymore really. Just look at the roster today. Name a guy that hasnt worn a title of any kind. There are so many, and so many title swappages nowadays that they dont mean nearly as much.
Titles today are mere props. They are used to get a guy over moreso then giving it to a guy that got over and deserves it in a big way.

I mean hell, three world titles are now up for grabs. It diminishes everything.


btw I just love bagpipes. One of my fave sounding instruments. They move me.
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If he was so good, he wouldnt have gotten cheered over Cena while being a heel. Piper would have made Cena look like an uberface, easily.
Bullshit.

I agree with you on many points, but on this one, you're full of crap.

I'd also like to note, in the "times are changing" category, when I was growing up, it seemed like cheering a heel was a good way to get lynched. That really changed.
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Bullshit.

I agree with you on many points, but on this one, you're full of crap.

I'd also like to note, in the "times are changing" category, when I was growing up, it seemed like cheering a heel was a good way to get lynched. That really changed.
Even as a kid I always like the bad guys, I remember likingn Razor and Shawn both when they were heels back in 92-94. I also never liked Hogan.
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