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Old 02-20-2008, 12:22 AM   #1
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Yeah, the technicality is "the MITB cotnract has always been cashed in to win the title."



Edge has never been defeated at Wrestlemania, he simply failed to win last year. He was not personally defeated.
I'm not totally sure how serious you are, but if he didn't win he lost. He was defeated in the way that the object of the match was to get the breifcase first and someone did it before he did. WWE can say he wasn't pinned and he didn't submit and really they can say whatever they want, but in all seriousness it wasn't a tie or anything.
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Old 02-20-2008, 12:49 AM   #2
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I'm not totally sure how serious you are, but if he didn't win he lost. He was defeated in the way that the object of the match was to get the breifcase first and someone did it before he did. WWE can say he wasn't pinned and he didn't submit and really they can say whatever they want, but in all seriousness it wasn't a tie or anything.
Exactly. To my understanding, there are three outcomes to a match: Win, loss or draw. Mr. Kennedy won the match, so his record at WrestleMania looks like 1-0-0. CM Punk lost the match, so his record would look something like 0-1-0. Edge also lost the match, as he didn't win, and he didn't draw, so his record would be 5-1-0.

They can say that Edge has never had a fall made against him at WrestleMania, but when you think about it, if that means anything, then he's only actually gotten two falls to his name at WrestleMania: once when he defeated Booker T at WrestleMania X-8, and at WrestleMania 22 when he pinned Mick Foley. Are two wins really that impressive?

The second best winning streak at WrestleMania, to this date, I believe, is Rob Van Dam, who still remains undefeated. I think he only has like 4 wins so far, but he has no losses (unless you count losing to Val Venis and Lance Storm on Heat a loss).
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