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Old 04-04-2008, 03:39 PM   #1
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Well this argument is pointless as none of us have trustworthy official stats on him or anything so we are all just going by what we think he weighed. So i'm just dropping it cause we are never gonna go anywhere.
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Old 04-04-2008, 05:04 PM   #2
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Well this argument is pointless as none of us have trustworthy official stats on him or anything so we are all just going by what we think he weighed. So i'm just dropping it cause we are never gonna go anywhere.
Do you have any idea how implausible your argument was in the first place?
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Old 04-04-2008, 11:50 PM   #3
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Do you have any idea how implausible your argument was in the first place?
It's a difficult argument from any angle (zing!) because there are no reliable stats for Angle's weight or anything, because he doesn't weigh in for anything...so there is no record keeping and this entire ordeal is just our speculation on the subject. So realistically there is no fact-based argument from any perspective.
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Old 04-05-2008, 08:11 AM   #4
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It's a difficult argument from any angle (zing!) because there are no reliable stats for Angle's weight or anything, because he doesn't weigh in for anything...so there is no record keeping and this entire ordeal is just our speculation on the subject. So realistically there is no fact-based argument from any perspective.
Hence I used the phrase "implausible."

Synonyms unlikely, improbable, unbelievable.

But hey, let's look at your own evidence in terms of Cocksword's weight. Cocksword weighed in at 265, a guy who was not only taller than Angle but also bigger. So you're trying to say that Angle as trying to cut weight down to a weight comparable to Cocksword, which pretty much holds no water whatsoever. While you can argue there are no facts on either side, it doesn't make your argument strain credibility any less.
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Old 04-05-2008, 02:34 PM   #5
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Hence I used the phrase "implausible."

Synonyms unlikely, improbable, unbelievable.

But hey, let's look at your own evidence in terms of Cocksword's weight. Cocksword weighed in at 265, a guy who was not only taller than Angle but also bigger. So you're trying to say that Angle as trying to cut weight down to a weight comparable to Cocksword, which pretty much holds no water whatsoever. While you can argue there are no facts on either side, it doesn't make your argument strain credibility any less.
Yeah, I never got as far as this post. Once I saw I was 'pwn'd' I felt I had to respond instantly...

But yeah, what he said.
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Old 04-05-2008, 09:24 PM   #6
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Hence I used the phrase "implausible."

Synonyms unlikely, improbable, unbelievable.
Yeh, I was agreeing with you on that...



And I've said repeatedly that no argument (mine included) is gonna have solid weight (pun intended again) behind it because we don't have the facts on, merely our own opinions. So, I like how I'm really getting this thrown in my face or whatever by freakin' AGREEING that there is no way to make a logical point on this!
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Old 04-04-2008, 07:28 PM   #7
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Well this argument is pointless as none of us have trustworthy official stats on him or anything so we are all just going by what we think he weighed. So i'm just dropping it cause we are never gonna go anywhere.
There was no argument. I was simply correcting you. You just made me do it twice. Put it like this. You saw the size of Brock Lesnar in his UFC match? He is way more bulky than Angle has ever been, and about 6 inches taller. He was 250 and said in interviews he never cut a shred.
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Old 04-04-2008, 11:38 PM   #8
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There was no argument. I was simply correcting you. You just made me do it twice. Put it like this. You saw the size of Brock Lesnar in his UFC match? He is way more bulky than Angle has ever been, and about 6 inches taller. He was 250 and said in interviews he never cut a shred.
No way was Brock down to 250 for that match, he was much bigger than that. He was saying he never cut because he caught a lot of flak for being so big in the first place, and bringing up the discussion of rather or not there should be a superheavyweight division in the UFC, or setting a lower limit on the heavyweight division. Weight classes are designed narrowly so that in theory, we see a measure of skill vs. skill not size vs skill. In the heavyweight division, you could have a guy who walks around at 215-220 and not cutting vs. a guy (like Lesnar) who cuts to make 265. Brock weighed in RIGHT AT 265 for the fight with Mir, and he probably weighed over 270-275 on the night of the fight.

Article Here with the numbers from the weigh in.
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Old 04-04-2008, 11:46 PM   #9
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There was no argument. I was simply correcting you.
Oh really? Like I just simply corrected you? Oh yeh but I presented you with actual facts and numbers and all that silly stuff rather than just an opinion. Like I tried to say, and tried to stop, the argument on Angle was based entirely on opinion and there is no way to find reliable official numbers on his weight so we really have no idea, just our speculation.

Lesnar on the other hand, does have reliable numbers on hand. And I just served them to you.

You had to go and mouth off after a civil disagreement, and look what happened. Pwn'd. When are some people gonna learn...
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Old 04-05-2008, 02:30 PM   #10
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Oh really? Like I just simply corrected you? Oh yeh but I presented you with actual facts and numbers and all that silly stuff rather than just an opinion. Like I tried to say, and tried to stop, the argument on Angle was based entirely on opinion and there is no way to find reliable official numbers on his weight so we really have no idea, just our speculation.

Lesnar on the other hand, does have reliable numbers on hand. And I just served them to you.

You had to go and mouth off after a civil disagreement, and look what happened. Pwn'd. When are some people gonna learn...
Look, if you think that Angle weighed 280lbs, then fine man.

So I couldn't be arsed to check the weights for Lesnar, so what? Fact is he weighed maximum of 265lbs and the fact that he is way more muscular and half a foot taller than Kurt, shits all over any argument or victory you think you have or have won.

Your statement is ludicrous. But congratulations on 'pwning' me.

Boy, is my face red..
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