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Old 07-28-2008, 12:51 PM   #1
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The only difference is that he's being pushed as a face, that's why everyone hates him now.

If you're a face and you're not Shawn Michaels, the IWC hates you.
Yeah thats a problem, the internet has gotten a culture where it's "cool" to hate whoever the WWE pushes as a good guy nowdays because the only good guys ur suppose to like are "cool" ones that are actually not good guys but more like tweeners when real good guys are hated like Cena, Tista and Lashley (was). CM Punk is a face thats liked but thats because he is a "cool" guy character and not really a "good" guy character like it is meant to be. People blame the WWE for not enjoying it but they should often blame themselves because its the internet culture to hate popular things that makes the trouble here, not the WWE.
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Old 07-28-2008, 05:52 PM   #2
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Yeah thats a problem, the internet has gotten a culture where it's "cool" to hate whoever the WWE pushes as a good guy nowdays because the only good guys ur suppose to like are "cool" ones that are actually not good guys but more like tweeners when real good guys are hated like Cena, Tista and Lashley (was). CM Punk is a face thats liked but thats because he is a "cool" guy character and not really a "good" guy character like it is meant to be. People blame the WWE for not enjoying it but they should often blame themselves because its the internet culture to hate popular things that makes the trouble here, not the WWE.
I don't know if that's the case, really. I just think that there are different ways for somebody to be a face without being a crowd-pandering kiss-ass, and a lot of people get sick of seeing the same schtick. That's part of it, and furthermore, the way they just turned him basically out of nowhere and just expected you to accept him as a face just bothered me. They could have built the turn up more somehow.

Think back to Batista turning on Triple H. That was a face turn done BEAUTIFULLY, and I loved Batista for it, even though he was a face. Know what I mean?
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Old 07-29-2008, 10:33 AM   #3
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I don't know if that's the case, really. I just think that there are different ways for somebody to be a face without being a crowd-pandering kiss-ass, and a lot of people get sick of seeing the same schtick. That's part of it, and furthermore, the way they just turned him basically out of nowhere and just expected you to accept him as a face just bothered me. They could have built the turn up more somehow.

Think back to Batista turning on Triple H. That was a face turn done BEAUTIFULLY, and I loved Batista for it, even though he was a face. Know what I mean?
The major issue is that they generally get cheered for one thing, and then turned into a face which does another thing entirely. And 99% of the time, that other thing ends up being "kiss up to the fans," which was almost certainly the antithesis of what he was doing to get over in the first place.

I miss Eddie, because he was over as a face who still did a lot of the "bad" things that got him over. He lied. He cheated. He stole. He got mad pops. You don't need to blow the crowd to be a face, you don't need to be a superman, or whatever.

But again. This is the Anti-Tude Era. Vince is trying to appeal to the Saturday Morning cartoons crowd.
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Old 08-01-2008, 06:18 PM   #4
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But again. This is the Anti-Tude Era. Vince is trying to appeal to the Saturday Morning cartoons crowd.
Great statement indeed.
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Yeah thats a problem, the internet has gotten a culture where it's "cool" to hate whoever the WWE pushes as a good guy nowdays because the only good guys ur suppose to like are "cool" ones that are actually not good guys but more like tweeners when real good guys are hated like Cena, Tista and Lashley (was). CM Punk is a face thats liked but thats because he is a "cool" guy character and not really a "good" guy character like it is meant to be. People blame the WWE for not enjoying it but they should often blame themselves because its the internet culture to hate popular things that makes the trouble here, not the WWE.
So it's our fault the WWE does thing that we don't like and have proven to be failures time and time again? OK.
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