MMA Thread

[Loose Cannon]

reply to KRISPY

exactly. with these other companies, they are creating thier own stars and it's so easy to build any sort of rivalry/conflict/controversy when you have that. And that's the kind of stuff Americans love to watch.

I mean I can just see Kimbo (if he were still unbeaten) in the ring after a match just ripping apart UFC and Dana White. shit like that would be awesome to watch. At least to me they would.

[Rob]

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon reply to KRISPY exactly. with these other companies, they are creating thier own stars and it's so easy to build any sort of rivalry/conflict/controversy when you have that. And that's the kind of stuff Americans love to watch. I mean I can just see Kimbo (if he were still unbeaten) in the ring after a match just ripping apart UFC and Dana White. shit like that would be awesome to watch. At least to me they would.

Why would it be good to watch? Dana White is never gonna mention EliteXC on his TV and is never gonna let his fighters go and fight their guys even if they just killed them. And why would EliteXC let Kimbo throw out challenges that will never be answered? It's the boy who cried wolf. Eventually people don't care.

Plus Dana's boys would kill him.

[Loose Cannon]

Originally Posted by Rob Why would it be good to watch? Dana White is never gonna mention EliteXC on his TV and is never gonna let his fighters go and fight their guys even if they just killed them. And why would EliteXC let Kimbo throw out challenges that will never be answered? It's the boy who cried wolf. Eventually people don't care. Plus Dana's boys would kill him.

I hear what you're saying and you're right on all points, but to me it screams marketing potential. Obviously Dana White won't mention them, but let's just say a company like EliteXC kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger to the level of UFC. And let's say that company started calling out UFC at every chance they got and started competing with them on PPV buys.

Obviously EliteXC is dead in the water and Obviously Dana's worst fighter might have beaten Kimbo, but if a company out there can ever rise to the level of UFC, don't you think a "feud" should be created and don't you think these Americans, who feed off of shit like this all the time, would eat up a "feud" between two companies. Cause you know the media would run with it.

Yes, there's 50 billion "what if's," but I would love to see that happen

[Rob]

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon I hear what you're saying and you're right on all points, but to me it screams marketing potential. Obviously Dana White won't mention them, but let's just say a company like EliteXC kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger to the level of UFC. And let's say that company started calling out UFC at every chance they got and started competing with them on PPV buys. Obviously EliteXC is dead in the water and Obviously Dana's worst fighter might have beaten Kimbo, but if a company out there can ever rise to the level of UFC, don't you think a "feud" should be created and don't you think these Americans, who feed off of shit like this all the time, would eat up a "feud" between two companies. Cause you know the media would run with it. Yes, there's 50 billion "what if's," but I would love to see that happen

I don't think the media would give a shit in the slightest. No gave a shit really when it was Pride. And when the inter promotional stuff happened in Japan, it went to shit. Same as it would in the States.

[Fabien Barthez]

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon I hear what you're saying and you're right on all points, but to me it screams marketing potential. Obviously Dana White won't mention them, but let's just say a company like EliteXC kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger to the level of UFC. And let's say that company started calling out UFC at every chance they got and started competing with them on PPV buys. Obviously EliteXC is dead in the water and Obviously Dana's worst fighter might have beaten Kimbo, but if a company out there can ever rise to the level of UFC, don't you think a "feud" should be created and don't you think these Americans, who feed off of shit like this all the time, would eat up a "feud" between two companies. Cause you know the media would run with it. Yes, there's 50 billion "what if's," but I would love to see that happen

No company can ever grow unless they sell their shows with ex-UFC fighters, and the vast majority of UFC fighters who are legitimate names won't leave because of the lack of competition elsewhere. So basically, anyone who fights outside UFC who is a drawing name, is automatically percieved as green and competition shy, and in that lose some of the drawing power which they harboured in UFC. It just won't happen. And I don't think it would be a good thing for the sport in general anyway.

All this is Fedor excluded, but after Fedor, there will be no exceptions.

Also, i'm all for a bit of Yank-bashing, just like the next person, but dressing it up as an idea to amuse the 'futile' septics, when it is your idea/90's wrestling mirroring dream which was mostly just to amuse yourself is not exactly that...

[Kris P Lettus]

Originally Posted by Fabien Barthez No company can ever grow unless they sell their shows with ex-UFC fighters

You have no idea what you are talking about..

DREAM is prettty huge right now and the only fighter I can think of that is a former UFC fighter is Cro Cop, but that destroys your theory also because he was a star in Japan way before he signed with Zuffa..