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Old 12-22-2008, 03:09 PM   #1
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Old 12-22-2008, 03:10 PM   #2
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But they are.
Well, they're not. But taking what you said as if it were fact, and that they presently are, then why is that a good thing?
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Old 12-22-2008, 03:17 PM   #3
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Well, they're not. But taking what you said as if it were fact, and that they presently are, then why is that a good thing?
The US and IC titles are lower card titles, titles for the lower card to feud over, thus giving the lower card something to do, and a stepping stone for them to rise up the roster. By making them uppercard titles, they are moot. There are already 2 uppercard/mainevent titles.

A single world title would not make the undercard more relevant, in fact it would push the undercard off the back burn and into the trash.

The undercard and the undercard titles are like tire on a car, and currently the tire is flat. You are trying to repaint the car, put in a new engine, and upgrade the stereo by unify the mainevent title. None of that addresses the problem of the flat fucking tire.

Paying attetion to the undercard, booking matches with rising stars and veterans that aren't going anywhere is the key, not ignoring it an fucking up the mainevent.
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Old 12-25-2008, 09:45 PM   #4
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The US and IC titles are lower card titles, titles for the lower card to feud over, thus giving the lower card something to do, and a stepping stone for them to rise up the roster. By making them uppercard titles, they are moot. There are already 2 uppercard/mainevent titles.

A single world title would not make the undercard more relevant, in fact it would push the undercard off the back burn and into the trash.

The undercard and the undercard titles are like tire on a car, and currently the tire is flat. You are trying to repaint the car, put in a new engine, and upgrade the stereo by unify the mainevent title. None of that addresses the problem of the flat fucking tire.

Paying attetion to the undercard, booking matches with rising stars and veterans that aren't going anywhere is the key, not ignoring it an fucking up the mainevent.
William Regal is closer to being an upper mid-carder than a lower card wrestler. If you're referring to the undercard being everything but the main event, then fine, but considering that Regal won the King of the Ring this year, and CM Punk held two World Titles at some point in 2008, calling them "lower carders" is dismissing them a bit. Shelton Benjamin main evented PPVs this year, and has always been someone the WWE has flirted with pushing.

The car analogy is pretty horrible, but I'll address it anyway. OK, you repaint the car, put in a new engine, upgrade the stereo, and you still have a flat tire. True. But then all you have to fix up is a flat tire. The next time you save up, you can address that problem, and get something road worthy.

We both agree that the car needs a new tire. Let's drop that argument. All I am saying is that I think the order the WWE could fix things up could very well start from the top and work down. You're just saying it needs to be the other way.
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Old 12-26-2008, 12:11 AM   #5
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We both agree that the car needs a new tire. Let's drop that argument. All I am saying is that I think the order the WWE could fix things up could very well start from the top and work down. You're just saying it needs to be the other way.
And your way, they're driving without a tire.

working on other issues first is great, if your car is in the garage. If it's on the road, the first thing you need is for it to be street worthy. If work on the body but ignore the flat tire or fail to maintain the brakes, it might as well be a fancy paperweight.

WWE needs to institute changes from the foundation up before it starts dressing things up on the outside.
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Old 12-26-2008, 04:27 AM   #6
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And your way, they're driving without a tire.

working on other issues first is great, if your car is in the garage. If it's on the road, the first thing you need is for it to be street worthy. If work on the body but ignore the flat tire or fail to maintain the brakes, it might as well be a fancy paperweight.

WWE needs to institute changes from the foundation up before it starts dressing things up on the outside.
You're the one always going on about being realistic. Come on now, do you really see the WWE suddenly saying "let's work on our foundations!"

Assuming that a change like this did force planning out of the WWE (which it would), then they can get it street worthy while it is in the garage. I see no real reason it could not work. The whole "ratings dropped last time" thing is complete bullshit. The titles have never been unified for the purposes of having a "Super Champion" between the brands. Last time, as I said earlier, they went in with one champion, had belts floating around everywhere, so it wasn't even special. They were also getting used to the brand split as a whole concept.

Face it -- the WWE needs something to trigger a catharsis. It's not going to happen automatically. Like the art of acting, wrestling seems to be at its best when it's reacting to something. The Attitude era was pretty much a response to what was going on in WCW at the time. You know when the WWE has been most interesting in recent years? When the WWE's plans go astray, and John Cena or someone gets injured, so they have to think about pushing someone like CM Punk.

That need to react is not going to be caused by TNA or ROH. It may as well come from the WWE itself, but that means they might actually have to take a risk, or something. Yeah, the WWE can be stupid, but even they are going to think things through. "OK, so we unify the WWE and World Heavyweight Championship...then what?" "Well, we need to make these divisions stronger." "I see, yes, that does make sense. "What is this sense you are talking about? We should try it more often."

If you think the WWE are going to go into this blind -- even taking into consideration that they are the WWE -- I think you are kidding yourself.
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Old 12-26-2008, 09:38 AM   #7
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You're the one always going on about being realistic. Come on now, do you really see the WWE suddenly saying "let's work on our foundations!"
I said "What they need," not "what they are likely to do."
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