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Old 12-07-2009, 01:39 PM   #281
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BCS needs to just go away for good. Why can't they adopt a system like the NCAA basketball does? Start with the 64 best teams, work down to 32, to 16, etc. etc. But no, some fat, overpaid dipshit who is part of some booster club at said well known school gets to decide who goes where. FUCK THAT NOISE. I'm a big Gator fan, but I honestly will say that TCU deserves a title shot over Texas. Texas got lucky as shit against Nebraska. Whatever though, it's all a flawed system anyways. Roll Tide Roll. Bring the SEC another title I guess.
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Old 12-07-2009, 02:43 PM   #282
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Clausen and Tate are both gone from the Irish. They will be entering the NFL Draft. Not surprising
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BCS needs to just go away for good. Why can't they adopt a system like the NCAA basketball does? Start with the 64 best teams, work down to 32, to 16, etc. etc. But no, some fat, overpaid dipshit who is part of some booster club at said well known school gets to decide who goes where. FUCK THAT NOISE. I'm a big Gator fan, but I honestly will say that TCU deserves a title shot over Texas. Texas got lucky as shit against Nebraska. Whatever though, it's all a flawed system anyways. Roll Tide Roll. Bring the SEC another title I guess.
It's likely to do with the fact that there is no room for an additional six college football games, and the fact that a 64-team playoff would entirely ruin the significance of a regular season.

Four teams, aka plus-one, might work, unless there are five teams. Eight teams is too arbitrary.

The most logical and fair playoff, in my opinion, would be to take the 11 major conference champions and then five wildcards, with seeds based on BCS rankings. I've done this before on TPWW, so might as well do it again:

1. Alabama (SEC)
2. Texas (Big 12)
3. Cincinnati (Big East)
4. TCU (Mountain West)
5. Florida (Wildcard 1)
6. Boise State (WAC)
7. Oregon (Pacific-10)
8. Ohio State (Big Ten)
9. Georgia Tech (ACC)
10. Iowa (Wildcard 2)
11. Virginia Tech (Wildcard 3)
12. LSU (Wildcard 4)
13. Penn State (Wildcard 5)
14. Houston (C-USA)
15. Central Michigan (MAC)
16. Troy (Sun Belt)

Under this system, the biggest snub of 2009 would be No. 14 Brigham Young.

This also gives some significance to the smaller conferences. As it stands, there is no reason why the Sun Belt, MAC, C-USA, or WAC should be considered Division 1-A. Mountain West is at a severe disadvantage as well.

I personally think it would be a lot more fair to give every conference one entry than to arbitrarily pick the top eight teams and continue to reward the rich.

But again, this is obviously inconceivable due to time limits, which is why I think the Plus-One format would be the best (while also putting some significance back to the BCS bowl-ties)
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I could work with that BCWWF.
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Round 1
1. Alabama (SEC)
16. Troy (Sun Belt)
Result: Alabama

8. Ohio State (Big Ten)
9. Georgia Tech (ACC)
Result: Georgia Tech
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4. TCU (Mountain West)
13. Penn State (Wildcard 5)
Result: Penn State

5. Florida (Wildcard 1)
12. LSU (Wildcard 4)
Result: Florida
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3. Cincinnati (Big East)
14. Houston (C-USA)
Result: Cincinnati

6. Boise State (WAC)
11. Virginia Tech (Wildcard 3)
Result: Boise State
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7. Oregon (Pacific-10)
10. Iowa (Wildcard 2)
Result: Oregon

2. Texas (Big 12)
15. Central Michigan (MAC)
Result: Texas
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Round 2
1 Alabama
9 Georgia Tech
Result: Alabama

13 Penn State
5 Florida
Result: Florida
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3 Cincinnati
6 Boise State
Result: Boise State

7 Oregon
2 Texas
Result: Texas
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Round 3
1 Alabama
5 Florida
Result: Florida
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6 Boise State
2 Texas
Result: Texas
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Championship
5 Florida
2 Texas
Result: I am so glad it did not come down to this!
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I like that idea BCWWF.

Only thing - I'd like to see the five wildcards automatically slotted in at 12-16 depending on BCS standings...I dunno, kinda like how in other sports the weaker division winners get better seeds than the Wild Card teams.
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House branch of Congress passes NCAA Football Playoff bill out of the comittees and should be debated/voted on soon by the rest of the House and Congress. If it becomes a law, BCS could either be in trouble for breaking anti-Trust laws if Justice Department investigates or make it illegal to promote a national title game without a playoff.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4727426
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That's stupid and ridiculous. There is no reason why a league has to have a playoff to determine the winner.
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I don't believe the bill would state you can't declare a champion without a playoff but you can't be promoting a championship when its based on votes and not merit or on the idea of every game is important.

The bigger issue is how much a mess the BCS is since before being undefeated guaranteed a spot and now its 1 spot given automatically to the SEC and then the other is split between the Big 10, Big 12, or USC. If they didn't keep changing how the title game occurs, they probably don't have to worry about Congress getting involved if it passes and it probably won't unless the Justice Department gets involved.
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He's not even going to coach the Sugar Bowl. Wow.

Reading the articles, the Cincy players are pissed the fuck off...and deservedly so.

Just makes me hate Notre Dame even more.
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He must hate BCS Bowls. He just gave up his last chance to coach in one.
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Wow, I hope the Cincy fans make his last days there miserable for him walking out on them to be the coach of the piss poor "Fightin' Irish." Fuck Notre Dame, nobody cares about them anymore.
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How can you blame Brian Kelly? Cincinnati is never going to have another season this good, and even if they do they will still be snubbed for a national title spot by a Big Ten, Big 12, SEC team or USC.

I'm sure he is also getting a substantial raise. And it's not like Notre Dame can't compete. I mean, 06 and 07 they were in a BCS bowl. Even this year they had one of the best offenses in the nation. It is complete bullshit when people claim Notre Dame can't get the top recruits anymore for academic reasons.
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How can you blame Brian Kelly? Cincinnati is never going to have another season this good, and even if they do they will still be snubbed for a national title spot by a Big Ten, Big 12, SEC team or USC.

I'm sure he is also getting a substantial raise. And it's not like Notre Dame can't compete. I mean, 06 and 07 they were in a BCS bowl. Even this year they had one of the best offenses in the nation. It is complete bullshit when people claim Notre Dame can't get the top recruits anymore for academic reasons.
I think it's a dick move because he's bailing on his team before the Sugar Bowl. Leaving for Notre Dame is one thing, but leaving before your team plays in its Bowl game is crap.

It might not even be his fault...but if Notre Dame said "Accept the offer now or you're out of the running," then shame on them.
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I haven't seen the details (are they public yet?), but these type of things seem like they are often 50/50. Sometimes the coach stays on to finish what he started, sometimes he leaves so as to not be a distraction.

Personally, I guess I can see how it might be awkward for Cincinnati to have Notre Dame's coach during the Sugar Bowl.
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He left now so he could recruit. Honestly the only reason I'm angry about this is because of the media. Stuff like this happens all the time. In fact, Kelly did this to Central Michigan when he went to Cincy. But that doesn't make it less shitty.
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He left now so he could recruit. Honestly the only reason I'm angry about this is because of the media. Stuff like this happens all the time. In fact, Kelly did this to Central Michigan when he went to Cincy. But that doesn't make it less shitty.
See also Nick Saban leaving the Miami Dolphins to go to Alabama.
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Its funny though because as soon as this dies down, the talk will shift to "Ok what MAC or C-USA coach can we get to come to Cincy"
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Its funny though because as soon as this dies down, the talk will shift to "Ok what MAC or C-USA coach can we get to come to Cincy"
BRB. Gonna google the coaches at UCF and USF.
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Rich Rodriguez did this to WVU just before the Suger Bowl too.

Huh....what is with Big East Coaches leaving just before the Suger Bowl anyways?
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Old 12-11-2009, 06:44 PM   #306
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Jim Harbaugh's going to Kansas for double the money Stanford was paying...wont be coaching them in their Bowl game.

I bet he ends up as a bust there..but since he's the brother of John Harbaugh, I hope he does good.
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yes, what Kelly did is shitty, but it happens all the time. It's part of college football. Like Supreme said, it's Notre Dame, so the media is all over this one.

Great signing though for the Irish. I like Kelly. Now they just have to make up thier minds if they want to be Florida or if they want to be Harvard. Can't be both.
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It's interesting to note that Kelly only spent 3 years at CMU and UC. That means he's never coached a senior class that he recruited. It means he hasn't proven that he can recruit. He might end up being a huge fraud.
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He's an offensive guy though, ND's problem isn't their offense. Should have hired a defensive coach, like the D-Coordinator from Florida. Not a big name but I think it would have been a better move. Instead they hired another big name guy who is cashing in on that big name. I dunno it might work but I wouldn't be surprised to see it fail. As for not being able to recruit I somewhat agree, ND the last few years has got some of the biggest top recruits in the nation, however they have struggled with securing depth.

I know he is going to make a lot more at ND but I think I would have rather just stayed at Cinncy. I feel the same way about Rich Rodriquez at Michigan, I know he's making a lot more at Michigan and has an opportunity to get that program back, but I would much rather put a program on the map for the first instead of bringing a program back onto the map.
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I'm also really hyped for the BC/USC bowl game. I know most people probably don't have the same feeling but I've been following the BC program a lot recently since I am from the area and a former teammate is a captain there. I also follow the USC program because I am big fan of Pete Carroll's coaching style and use a lot of his ideas with my own team. On top of that they are playing the San Francisco Giants' stadium, which creates an interesting dynamic since the lay out is a lot different than the usual football stadium.
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The post-game celebrations of Army-Navy game is probably one of the best things about college sports and pro sports. Biggest game of the year for either school and yet when its done both sides literally come together to support each other in songs and respect.
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Gerhart should have won, lost by a measly 5 votes..

At least Tebow finished dead last.
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I'm happy with the result...woulda been happy with Gerhart and Suh as well.

Kinda was pulling for Suh just because defensive players get no respect...but knew he wouldn't win.
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Surprised at McCoy being in 3rd since him and Tebow had a "down" year similar to Bradford before he got hurt. Also a bit surprised at Suh being in 4th since its rare for a defense position to be nominated for the Heisman.

Good choice with Bama's RB as winner since he basically was the "powerhorse" for Alabama this year.
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McCoy lost it in the Big 12 Championship game, where as Ingram won it in his conf. championship game. I figured McCoy was still going to finish 2nd though
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Glad Ingram won. Definitely didn't want McCoy and especially Tebow. Wouldn't have minded the Nebraska defender, just for something different, but I don't like Nebraska.

In general though, I think Ingram was the best choice for a year in which there wasn't really any definitive choice.
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Urban Meyer is stepping down. Wow.

For personal reasons...gotta assume something health related with the family or something.
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Urban Meyer is stepping down. Wow.

For personal reasons...gotta assume something health related with the family or something.
Tim Tebow.

He knows what next year is gonna be like...they'll absolutely suck.
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No way he is leaving cause of Tebow.. It's either an illness or he's going to the NFL..
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