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Old 03-14-2011, 08:44 AM   #121
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To those disputing my claims of him going no where, I give you but one piece of evidence:

I disagree. Not only was that a different time, but I think Sin Cara is way more marketable.
One of the biggest problems with Ultimo's run in WWE is that they expected him to be another Rey, and he's just not. It was a superficial expectation.

Plus they're bringing Sin Cara in with no real track record. Ultimo was in WCW which had ramifications.

Really, I can understand why people are skeptical about another lucha being successful in WWE, but I think it's very likely that he will be.
If only just for the reason that Rey has proven himself to be a main event draw and cash cow, and he's winding down.
It's obvious that they would like to straight up replace him, and they've found their guy I think.
They just need to get him over initially and it's off to the races. I don't see that being too hard.

Luckily, they're not trying to pass off a watered down cruiserweight division anymore so they can put him right out there with the midcarders and Mysterio and skip the bullshit.
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Old 03-14-2011, 08:48 AM   #122
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The mask looks great too. I think that's honestly a major part of him getting over. It's going to be his image and identity, and lucha masks tend to look generic and low quality.
This one has something cool about it that's highly marketable and doesn't come off as a parody.

It manages to be like Rey's in that it's a traditional mexican mask, but also has a modern mainstream look to it.
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Old 03-14-2011, 12:37 PM   #123
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Old 03-14-2011, 04:41 PM   #124
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I detect the besmirching of the good name Ultimo Dragon.
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Old 03-15-2011, 12:33 PM   #125
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Nah, what Jeritron said does not besmirch ultimo at all. He isn't another rey mysterio, but that isn't a bad thing. It's not that he isn't as good, he just has a different style.
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Old 03-15-2011, 12:42 PM   #126
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Yeah, that and Ultimo was older and pretty beat-up by the time WWE got him.

Mistico should do pretty well. Will he be as over as Rey? idk

edit: Actually, if the guy doesn't speak English, which I've read he does not, he prolly won't.
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Old 03-15-2011, 12:55 PM   #127
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Well, Rey never got over with his talking. Like, at all.
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Old 03-15-2011, 01:01 PM   #128
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Difference between Ultimo coming in and Mistico is where the WWE business is these days. Most of the revenues come from the international markets (a lot from Mexico), so pushing diverse talent is a key for them.
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Old 03-15-2011, 10:14 PM   #129
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Old 03-15-2011, 10:18 PM   #130
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Hate the fact that it is apparently pronounced "Care-ah" instead of "Car-ah", like I thought.

"Care-ah" is a girl's name.
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Old 03-15-2011, 10:20 PM   #131
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he'll get over for sure. Looks like the WWE wants to push him hard. The guy is not going to be a top guy, but he will be that crowd pleaser (like Evan Bourne) that will get everyone pumped. He's a great market towards the younger crowd and will obviously be over in lot of Internaitonal markets.

I have a hard time seeing how this will not work
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Old 03-16-2011, 06:37 PM   #132
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Hate the fact that it is apparently pronounced "Care-ah" instead of "Car-ah", like I thought.

"Care-ah" is a girl's name.
They're saying it wrong. It should be car-ah.
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Old 03-16-2011, 06:42 PM   #133
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Hate the fact that it is apparently pronounced "Care-ah" instead of "Car-ah", like I thought.

"Care-ah" is a girl's name.
What? Really?

"Car-ah" does sound better, but I guess you can't argue with the Spanish Language.
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Old 03-16-2011, 06:43 PM   #134
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he'll get over for sure. Looks like the WWE wants to push him hard. The guy is not going to be a top guy, but he will be that crowd pleaser (like Evan Bourne) that will get everyone pumped. He's a great market towards the younger crowd and will obviously be over in lot of Internaitonal markets.

I have a hard time seeing how this will not work
Maybe when Rey leaves he will be a top guy
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Old 03-16-2011, 06:46 PM   #135
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he looks better than Rey
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Old 03-16-2011, 08:58 PM   #136
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I sure that along the way Vince may consider replacing Rey with Sin Cara. While Mysterio is still pretty popular with the crowds it's obvious he's not moving around as well as he use too, and with all respect should consider taking some lengthy time off.

I've only seen a handful of Mistico matches but so far he's impressed me and I'm looking forward to his arrival.

Also, I must be in a Kamen Rider mood because I could swear his mask is a play off of Knight's mask from the Ryuki (a.k.a. Dragon Knight) series.
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:37 PM   #137
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:42 PM   #138
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So he'll be teaming with Goldust then?
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