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Old 07-29-2011, 08:47 AM   #1
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they do show that shot sometimes where the entrance is to the right it just depends on the venue i guess
I think you're thinking of when they have to set up the arena "backwards" and hard camera is opposite of where it usually is.

I think Fred means is that it may be interesting to have a camera opposite the hard one. It's likely not done due to there being a visible cameraman on screen, and that only happens when:

1) a wrestler is in disguise, complete with baseball cap, to sneak attack someone
2) The Rock is making fun of the cameraman or using "the People's Camera" in an I Quit match with Mick Foley
3) The Undertaker is supposed to land on you at a high-profile PPV match against Shawn Michaels

Camera crew and stage hands are supposed to be relatively invisible.
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Old 07-29-2011, 11:02 AM   #2
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Yeah I know the ring has 4 sides. But you never see the camera on the other side of the ring...you know the one. That main camera view...Imagine watching a match from the other side. The entrance way is at the right, and The King, Cole, and JR are to your left...Why can't we see the match at that angle? It's more forbidden then using the crossface.
Video production 101, once you've established action going in one direction, don't cut to a camera that shows it going the other way. It's disorienting to the viewer.

Basketball games do the same thing, to use another example. If you have Kevin Durant driving to the rim going left-to-right and they go to a camera where he's now finishing his drive going to the left, it's incredibly distracting and takes you out of the moment. That's why it never happens.

Even in sports (-entertainment), there needs to be a logical visual flow to people's actions. Hence the hard camera to establish a "world" for them.

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Old 07-29-2011, 07:39 PM   #3
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4) Video production 101, once you've established action going in one direction, don't cut to a camera that shows it going the other way. It's disorienting to the viewer.

Basketball games do the same thing, to use another example. If you have Kevin Durant driving to the rim going left-to-right and they go to a camera where he's now finishing his drive going to the left, it's incredibly distracting and takes you out of the moment. That's why it never happens.

Even in sports (-entertainment), there needs to be a logical visual flow to people's actions. Hence the hard camera to establish a "world" for them.
That's an excellent point... but your number 4 had nothing to do with the 3 things I listed. I noted 3 semi-acceptable times to have a cameraman on screen. You just listed a reason not to. Ruin'd the flow of my joke there, bud. Plus it applied more to the original question, so you should have just quoted Fred Bizkit insted.

As for "logical visual flow", the thread is supposed to be about Impact Wrestling. Therefore, "logic" and "flow" in the same statment is an oxymoron.
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