Christian at Night of Champions

[captaincharismark]

Originally Posted by Blakeamus Tommy Dreamer for years couldn't beat Raven...a hot feud that was never stale comes to mind with this similar situation. It's called storytelling. The Orton/Christian matches have been top notched and yes, you will see a usual spot from their previous match, but it's tweaked with a reversal of some kind. But as far as a match between the two...I think the cage match was the ending to their rivalry. Formula people! If it isn't, I see Christian getting a clean victory over Orton eventually.

There's a difference between storytelling and burying a guy. While Dreamer didn't beat Raven for years, Heyman had a vision in mind for the fued. That being the main difference between the compared fueds. WWE clearly has no intention of letting Christian pin Orton cleanly one on one.

I do enjoy their matches, as the wrestling is top notch and it is interesting to see what they add to their matches. I simply think that not allowing Christian to win cleanly at some point ruins the fued longterm. Having the same predictable ending every time also kills any momentum the fued has going for it.

[Blakeamus]

Originally Posted by captaincharismark There's a difference between storytelling and burying a guy. While Dreamer didn't beat Raven for years, Heyman had a vision in mind for the fued. That being the main difference between the compared fueds. WWE clearly has no intention of letting Christian pin Orton cleanly one on one. I do enjoy their matches, as the wrestling is top notch and it is interesting to see what they add to their matches. I simply think that not allowing Christian to win cleanly at some point ruins the fued longterm. Having the same predictable ending every time also kills any momentum the fued has going for it.

I don't see how you think it's consider "burying" all because he NEVER pinned Orton. He was obsessed of proving that he can defeat Orton, thats the way the direction of Christian's character is going. It's not like he was squashed in the series of matches. Now that would be burying. It didn't ruin Christian...it elevated him in the main event picture as one of the top guys in Smackdown for the WHC picture. Win or Lose, WWE made Christian marketable.

[captaincharismark]

Originally Posted by Blakeamus I don't see how you think it's consider "burying" all because he NEVER pinned Orton. He was obsessed of proving that he can defeat Orton, thats the way the direction of Christian's character is going. It's not like he was squashed in the series of matches. Now that would be burying. It didn't ruin Christian...it elevated him in the main event picture as one of the top guys in Smackdown for the WHC picture. Win or Lose, WWE made Christian marketable.

I consider him "buried" b/c he's only won one of the six matches they've wrestled, and he won by DQ. I'd consider that squashed when you add in the fact that both his title reigns combined were like two weeks. Not to mention on a weekly basis he's billed as the guy who can't pin Orton. I understand him using underhanded tatics to win, but in this case he's not even doing that. And the fued has kept him in the main events, albeit as a fluke competitor.

Again, I ask what you definition of burying a character is. The way the announcers were putting over the cage match, it's the last match the two will have for the forseeable future. Thus meaning his 1/6 win will be the only win he got in the fued by DQ. Which to me cheapens the heel turn and makes him look incredibly inferior to Orton. Not saying he has to win cleanly in a straight up match, but a clean win by heel tatics would've been a refreshing ending to me.