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Old 11-22-2011, 02:23 PM   #1
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Braun winning is just...wow. Not a knock on him as he had an MVP-caliber year. But Kemp clearly put up the better numbers. I'll never understand why so many writers feel the need to use whether or not you made the playoffs against you.
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Old 11-22-2011, 03:18 PM   #2
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Braun winning is just...wow. Not a knock on him as he had an MVP-caliber year. But Kemp clearly put up the better numbers. I'll never understand why so many writers feel the need to use whether or not you made the playoffs against you.
Because if you hit 100 Home Runs...drive in 200 Runs...hit .400...but your team doesn't make the playoffs...how "valuable" were you, really, to your team?
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Old 11-22-2011, 03:25 PM   #3
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Because if you hit 100 Home Runs...drive in 200 Runs...hit .400...but your team doesn't make the playoffs...how "valuable" were you, really, to your team?
As valuable as you could be. A player shouldn't lose the MVP award because the team around him sucks.
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Old 11-22-2011, 04:00 PM   #4
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Because if you hit 100 Home Runs...drive in 200 Runs...hit .400...but your team doesn't make the playoffs...how "valuable" were you, really, to your team?
Retarded.

So if I hit 275 with 15 home runs and 75 RBI and that led my team, and somehow because of the breaks in the game I win a weak division, I am more valuable than the guy you mentioned?
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Old 11-22-2011, 05:30 PM   #5
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Retarded.

So if I hit 275 with 15 home runs and 75 RBI and that led my team, and somehow because of the breaks in the game I win a weak division, I am more valuable than the guy you mentioned?
YES.

Because the award is Most VALUABLE Player, not "Player of the Year" or "Most Outstanding Player".
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YES.

Because the award is Most VALUABLE Player, not "Player of the Year" or "Most Outstanding Player".
You're a fucking moron.
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Old 11-23-2011, 10:23 AM   #7
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YES.

Because the award is Most VALUABLE Player, not "Player of the Year" or "Most Outstanding Player".
You are a fucking moron.
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Braun winning is just...wow. Not a knock on him as he had an MVP-caliber year. But Kemp clearly put up the better numbers. I'll never understand why so many writers feel the need to use whether or not you made the playoffs against you.
Kemp should have won but Braun winning isn't that bad although I could see if the writers felt Braun had more value to the Brewers than Kemp to the Dodgers and maybe the idea of Kemp being similar to when A-Rod won in 2003 (I think).

The Brewers themselves shifted their entire focus onto Braun for the year while Kemp might have gotten the stigma of his stats not really benefiting the Dodgers even though they were horrible except him for most of the season.

Then again the writers always have some weird thinking that a lot of the times barely makes any sense considering their past votes or thinking (ex. a DH can never be an MVP while a guy who pads his stats on a horrible team is MVP-worthy).
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