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Old 04-12-2012, 09:12 PM   #1
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Is Brees not going to show up at OTAs? Damn. No Payton and no Brees. That would have to feel surreal in the locker room.
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A record 26 players have been invited to the NFL draft. Yay for another year of every 1st round pick being shown before the announcement!
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No kidding..I hate that. Why do they have to be the first to spoil the damn pick. It'll be like a minute before the pick is in and they show the player on the phone with a smile on his face
Analyst; Well we know what the next pick is folks you saw it here first!!! What do you think about the pick Mel??! Even before the commish announces it
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If you were projected to go between 20 & 25 and the NFL invited you would you go? I feel like they're setting guys up for some awkward camera shots and unintended hilariousness if someone shows up, doesn't go in the first round and has to sit there in their suit with their family as the party slowly dwindles to just them and the janitors waiting to put up the tables and chairs.
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whoa the Broncos released Andre Goodman

a few years late, but still
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a few years late, but still
About fucking time. Keep reading Denver reporters defend him with "DON'T FORGET THAT INT HE HAD AGAINST THE VIKINGS!!!!!" No. A fucking DT could have caught that gift, all he had to do was not drop a pass directly to him.

Now his pick 6 against the Jets was nice, too bad he was regularly getting abused by basically every average WR in the league
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In ’89, Idea of Bounties Seemed Funny to Many
By MIKE TANIER
The N.F.L.’s last bounty scandal of note did not provoke outrage or condemnation. It did not result in fines or suspensions. The accused perpetrators showed no remorse. The only person to receive any penalty was the victim.

Mostly, the incident was played for laughs.

There had been bad blood between Buddy Ryan’s Philadelphia Eagles and the Dallas Cowboys since 1987, when the Cowboys sent their stars onto the field against Philadelphia’s overmatched replacement players during the strike. The feud intensified in 1989 when Ryan released kicker Luis Zendejas after a string of poor games, and Zendejas criticized Ryan before signing with Dallas.

After Zendejas kicked off to start the third quarter of the Eagles’ 27-0 victory over the Cowboys on Thanksgiving that year, Jessie Small, a 239-pound linebacker for the Eagles, ignored his usual blocking assignment and raced across the field toward the 175-pound Zendejas. The kicker crumpled in self-defense, his helmet colliding with Small’s ankle.

The referees, dutifully enforcing the letter of the rulebook, flagged Zendejas for a low block. He stumbled to his feet with what was later diagnosed as a concussion. Small was not penalized.

After the game, Cowboys Coach Jimmy Johnson accused the Eagles of putting a price on Zendejas’s head.

“We were told last night by a coach, and it is confirmed by two different players: there is a $200 bounty on Luis Zendejas, a $500 bounty on Troy Aikman,” Johnson said in his postgame news conference.

Livid, Johnson also took a shot at Ryan.

“I would have said something to Buddy, but he wouldn’t stand on the field long enough,” Johnson said. “He put his big fat rear end into the dressing room.”

Ryan, one of the game’s more colorful personalities, called the bounty allegations excuses and “High School Charlie stuff.”

He added of Johnson’s “fat” comment: “I resent that. I’ve been on a diet, lost a couple of pounds. I thought I was looking good.”

Ryan was not the only one who found humor in the unsportsmanlike hit. “The NFL Today,” the pregame show on CBS, devoted a long segment the next week to what became known as the Bounty Bowl. The host, Brent Musburger, chuckled at Ryan’s remarks. “Oh, the rips you can make in 30 seconds,” he said. Irv Cross asserted that the Eagles had a reward system for big plays, not a bounty system. “What they are is aggressive and arrogant,” he said.

“What they are is in trouble,” their “NFL Today” colleague Will McDonough added, noting that players were not allowed to receive noncontractual money from a team.

Finally, Chicago Coach Mike Ditka, who had a checkered history with Ryan, the Bears’ defensive coordinator when they won the Super Bowl in 1986, added a dollop of sarcasm during a satellite interview. “That would seem much too constructive for him to think of anything like that,” Ditka said of Ryan.

Set aside the humor, however, and there are many parallels between the Bounty Bowl and the current scandal which led to the suspensions of Gregg Williams, Sean Payton and other coaches and executives for the New Orleans Saints, punishments that were upheld this week after an appeal to Commissioner Roger Goodell.

In both instances, there were initial denials and dismissals by players that it was all “part of the game.” Some tried to make distinctions between “big-play bonuses” and bounties. There was even a tape: Zendejas claimed to have recorded a telephone conversation in which the Eagles’ special teams coach, Al Roberts, warned him of the bounty in the week leading up to the game.

The N.F.L. looked into the matter, though not as zealously as it pursued the Saints scandal.

“Calling it an investigation would be overstating it,” said the Hall of Fame sportswriter Ray Didinger, who covered the Eagles for The Philadelphia Daily News and now writes for CSNPhilly.com. “It was more of an inquiry.”

The N.F.L.’s security chief met with Ryan, Roberts and several Eagles players but found no evidence of wrongdoing.

“After a thorough review of all information available to the league, Commissioner Tagliabue has concluded that there is no proof that ‘bounties’ were placed on any Dallas Cowboy player by the Philadelphia Eagles,” the N.F.L. said in a statement, referring to Paul Tagliabue. “Nor is there convincing evidence of an intent to injure any Cowboys’ player or to make contact with any player outside the rules of the game.”

Ryan reacted in typical fashion: he demanded an apology from Johnson.

The commissioner’s ruling came just days before a rematch between the teams in Philadelphia. The game was called Bounty Bowl II. “The NFL Today” promoted the game with on-screen “wanted” posters of players. Tagliabue attended the game. Small and Zendejas played.

The Eagles’ 20-10 victory passed without incident between the teams, but Philadelphia fans pelted Johnson and everyone else they could reach with snowballs. The television commentators Verne Lundquist and Terry Bradshaw endured a barrage inside their open-air broadcast booth.

“I got to tell you what a joy it is to come here to Philadelphia to dodge ice balls,” Lundquist said in the telecast’s final seconds.

Didinger never found any clear evidence of a bounty system, but he is convinced that Small was acting on Ryan’s wishes, whether they were stated or implied, and was compensated with money or simply the coach’s favor.

“Looking at the film of the play, there is no other logical explanation,” he said. “Somebody put this idea in Jessie Small’s head.”

Didinger also believes that Johnson’s allegations would have been taken more seriously at the time were it not for the personalities involved: the blustery Johnson, the smart-alecky Ryan and a tiny journeyman kicker in Zendejas.

“There was a slapstick element to it,” Didinger said, noting that the incident might not have been brushed aside so quickly if a star like Joe Montana or Phil Simms were involved.

Attitudes have changed, and teams, the news media and fans take excessive roughness much more seriously than they did 23 years ago. That is a reflection of the league’s emphasis on safety issues and the awareness that the deaths of some former players have been linked to injuries sustained on the field. They include Andre Waters — Ryan’s favorite enforcer, who was on the field for the Bounty Bowls.

“To a large degree, it was laughed off,” Didinger said of the Bounty Bowls. “No one is laughing now.”
That's what Mike Golic was talking about..
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Kalil will be gone..
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Are you aware that there is a process where teams can trade picks?
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In hindsight, I wish the Falcons had not done the deal they did for Julio Jones so they could offer the same pieces this year to move up for Kalil. That line is the one thing holding them back.
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Roddy White is a dickhead.. When players get this out of control and keep fucking up via social media, the coach, GM, and owner should step up and ban them from things like Twitter, Facebook, etc..
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Roddy White is a dickhead.. When players get this out of control and keep fucking up via social media, the coach, GM, and owner should step up and ban them from things like Twitter, Facebook, etc..
Yeah. There's no excuse at all for that. He was being a jackass. #period
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I just don't understand how hard it is for them to NOT say dumb shit
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How is Roddy White 30, it seems like he was just drafted a couple of years ago.
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I wonder the same thing. Luckily chlamydia doesn't inhibit all pro play
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Same when he said all that shit about NOLA..

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Meh. That's not that bad. I think it was trash talk gone a little too far, whereas the homophobic stuff was blatantly out of line.
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Saying that God gave New Orleans a championship so the city wouldn't fall apart isn't out of line??
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Saying that God gave New Orleans a championship so the city wouldn't fall apart isn't out of line??
When you look at it in the context of the other tweets and the trash that was being talked on both sides, no. I think it tiptoes the line between appropriate and inappropriate depending on who reads it, whereas his refusal to back down from his borderline homophobic comments is just ignorant.
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Dude it was in the article. There was back and forth on both sides. He called them the Aints, Will Smith tweeted his Super Bowl ring, Scott Shanle said something, Tracy Porter said Falcons fans were following him to know what it was like to follow a real champion, White said the comment about God, etc...

It's a rivalry game. I've been at the Superdome and the Georgia Dome when they've played. There's always something being said by one side to the other. It would be different if he said the God stuff and then continued to harp on it like he did the gay stuff, but it was one tweet among several that was nothing but trash talk.
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I guess we aren't drafting Blackmon then.

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He spent more time on the Bills than the Ravens..
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Just read that. Mularkey drafted him when he coached the Bills so it makes sense why he came here.
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Is this true? Is it coming out that Fujita is the snitch?
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I've been hearing it was Shockey..
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I've been hearing it was Shockey..
Sapp put that out there, but apparently he was wrong because Shockey tweeted a bunch of texts between him and Payton after his suspension that made it sound like they were on good terms.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was a former defensive player like Fujita.
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It was probably that guy who was making the video on Steve Gleason. The guy who released the audio that everyone flipped out about.
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No, this has been an investigation for 3 years..
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The NFL’s decision last year to move kickoffs from the 30-yard line to the 35 may have been the first step toward moving kickoffs out of football completely.

That’s the word from Giants owner John Mara, a Competition Committee member who says the conversations have already started about potentially taking the play that has started every football game in history out of the league for good.

“We had a lot of discussions about whether we should eliminate it and if we did what we could do in its place,” Mara told Giants.com. “There’s no consensus on it right now, but I could see the day in the future where that play could be taken out of the game. You see it evolving toward that.”

Mara says the Competition Committee’s top priority is player safety, and that the increase in touchbacks last year coincided with a decrease in concussions. In the eyes of the league office and NFL owners, that proves that moving the kickoff was the right idea.

What’s unclear is what would take the place of the kickoff if it ceased to exist. Mara says the NFL won’t eliminate the kickoff until it has the right plan for how to get rid of it, but he seems to think the kickoff is just a fundamentally unsafe play.

“Nobody would go that far now, but we talk about different blocks that we can outlaw,” Mara said. “The problem is that the concussions come from everywhere, from the wedge, from the crossing blocks where a guy goes from one side of the field to another, from a full speed collision between a return guy and a tackler. So there’s no one thing that you can do. It’s something that we’ll continue to watch as closely as possible.”

If the NFL were to eliminate the kickoff, it would likely adopt a rule that after every touchdown or field goal the other team gets the ball at the 20-yard line, and that each half starts with one team getting the ball at the 20 as well. A bigger question is whether onside kicks would continue to exist: Late-game strategy would change significantly if the onside kick was no longer an option.

But make no mistake: The NFL is serious enough about cutting down on injuries on kickoffs that last year’s rules change won’t be the last one.

“There was no support for moving the kickoff back to the 30 yard-line,” Mara said.

And some day, there may be no support for having kickoffs at all.
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A kickoff return for a touchdown is one of the most exciting plays in sports. Plus, having a good kick returner changes the dynamic of the game. Hester had the Colts kicking squib kicks in the Super Bowl because he was so dangerous. Just having teams start on the 20 is terrible.

I understand that having 11 guys bum rushing a returner who's looking up for the ball isn't exactly safe, but damn. There's got to be other ways without taking that out. Keep the 11 players out there, but maybe have 2 or 3 players not rush the kicker unless he crosses the 40 or something. I dunno. Taking kickoffs out would be a horrible move.
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Dan Patrick said yesterday, they are talking about this so in 20 years when Roger Goodell has to sit on a stand to testify about injuries, he can say he did everything possible to protect players..

They say the rate of concussions on kickoff went down tremendously BUT guys are now returning kicks 7 yards deep, so they are essentially getting a full head of steam before taking the hits, which is, seemingly, more dangerous..
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They say the rate of concussions on kickoff went down tremendously BUT guys are now returning kicks 7 yards deep, so they are essentially getting a full head of steam before taking the hits, which is, seemingly, more dangerous..
Umm... they are getting the same head of steam as they were before. They're taking the ball 5 yards deeper because it's being kicked from 5 yards closer. The distance between the returner and the defenders hasn't changed. How are they getting more of a head of steam? lol
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