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Old 06-03-2012, 11:42 AM   #1
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Austins Heel Turn? Did it shock you?
The night at Wrestlemania when Austin turned heel and joined forces
with Mr McMahon and then later on HHH to become the Power Trip (probably the greatest tag team in history). Did this shock you? Was you expecting Austin to stay face?.

In my eyes the whole Heel angle ruined Austin,
He should have stayed the way he was. Hell raising beer drinking, mcmahon hating, sob. Instead he goes to the on guy to win the title.

The Birth of the PowerTrip though was probably the greatest
thing to ever happen. in WWE. Period.
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Old 06-03-2012, 01:11 PM   #2
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Heel Austin was quite entertaining..... although unlikely, Vince may have been concerned with the fans getting sick of his routine, a la Hulk Hogan initial WCW run.....
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Old 06-03-2012, 01:26 PM   #3
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I definitely remember sitting and watching WM X-7 live. At the time I was doing PPV write ups for a now closed down wrestling website. I sat there with my pen in my hand, staring in awe at the screen as Austin clobbered Rock in the back with that steel chair over and over again. For them to turn the biggest face in the company heel, in his own hometown, on the biggest stage of them all, was a very ballsy and risky move. In the end, I don't think it paid off quite the way that McMahon had in mind - the breakup of the Power Trip due to Triple H's injury was a major blow to the angle, and then the failure of the InVasion angle pretty much set in stone Austin's return to facedom. I can only imagine how the year would have gone had Triple H not torn his quad.

Still, we got some incredible matches out of it with Austin vs Benoit (anyone remember the 10 consecutive German suplexes on Smackdown?) and Austin vs Angle.
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Old 06-03-2012, 01:35 PM   #4
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Didn't "shock" me because I did not have enough interest in Austin to really care about anything he did.

I must say that I enjoyed the result though. Heel Austin is about the only time I enjoyed him in the WWF/E. That and his feud with Bret.
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Old 06-03-2012, 03:02 PM   #6
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To be honest, my favorite time period for Stone Cold was 2001. That's definitely his best title reign. He was always on top of his game, but I thought he worked extra hard during this time period for the audience.
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Old 06-03-2012, 03:16 PM   #7
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I agree, Austin was the best during his 2001 world championship reign. He was the best part of that year in wrestling. He did seem to work harder to please the fans, wasn't afraid to embarrass himself and was always entertaining/funny. I didn't find all of this with the face Austin.

I also remember going to a Smackdown taping in Toronto, and Austin let Sgt. Slaughter punch him down at the end of the show, he seemed drunk. Austin was off the charts during this time.
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Old 06-03-2012, 03:21 PM   #8
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As a longtime fan, I say no.
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Austin himself put on a great performance as a heel up until the Invasion angle started. But then he became a comedy character.

The heel didn't work, but it's not Austin's fault. He reached a point where fans just didn't want to boo him. They probably shouldn't have turned him. It's not like his babyface character was getting stale. Also, there was no shortage of top heels in WWE at the time (Triple H, Angle, Jericho would have eventually turned).
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Old 06-03-2012, 05:13 PM   #11
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That's at InVasion.
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Wasn't paying attention. Ops.


Either way, the OP would have been better with a video as a reminder.
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Old 06-03-2012, 05:36 PM   #13
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the heel Austin going against a fresh bad ass face Kurt Angle is one of my favorite feuds. The whole thing was new as roles were reversed and the matches were top notch. I loved Angle's face run in 2001. It's still one of my favorite parts of his career.
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Old 06-03-2012, 06:56 PM   #14
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It was all over the dirtsheets so no. He was amazing, but unfortunately the product dipped and the kept making bad decisions so all his dance partners got their legs cut out from under them and his title loss kind of faded into obscurity when it could have been an epic passing of the torch. It's when Vince lost focus because he bought WCW.

I would say he had his best matches during this time because guys like Benoit, Jericho, Angle and HHH had upped the workrate (along with the Rock to be honest, he was "sloppy" in the sense that he wasn't technical, but still athletic as fuck, quick and hard working) in WWE main events and Steve adapted REALLY well and was an absolute machine in '01. It also coincides when he came back from neck surgery, so he was definitely refreshed.
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Old 06-03-2012, 07:32 PM   #15
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1998 was my favorite Austin year. He was the biggest thing going on around that time, and it was really hard to find a reason not to like him. When he turned heel, it looked like it was going good (despite how upset I was at the time) but then he was totally degraded when that Invasion of the WCW mid-carder shit (and ECW) came about. Seriously... Austin playing folk songs to Mcmahon while being a manbitch for him, complaining about Debra's cookies!!!??? The only thing that really stuck from that time was,"WHAT!?" Pre-Invasion heel turn, okay but still confusing the reason for it. During Invasion... went to complete crap.
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Old 06-03-2012, 07:56 PM   #16
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No. It was about as telegraphed as receiving a telegraph after the telegraph man has knocked on your door clearly stating "TELEGRAPH" as loud as possible.
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Still playing the "anything to be a fucktard contrarian" card huh?
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Old 06-03-2012, 08:01 PM   #19
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Didn't like it at first since it made little sense why he suddenly would side with Vince after raising hell on him the previous years and Vince wanting to destroy Austin. The heel run ended up being great though in the long run.

The one a while later during the Invasion was pretty stupid overall even if the real reason was due to the WCW/ECW side lacking the big names due to forces outside of WWE's control.
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Old 06-03-2012, 08:25 PM   #20
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It surprised me and I loved it. Obviously, WCW being bought and the InVasion angle along with HHH's injury changed the entire initial heel run but the Power Trip run was an awesome few weeks.
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If anything, Hulk Hogan's situation in WCW in 1996 is much more similar to John Cena's current situation: the unstoppable, bland, eat your vitamins, say your prayers, don't be a bully main eventer face of the company getting mixed reactions everywhere he goes - a sign of the changing of the times in our culture.

And if I recall, Hulk Hogan's heel turn was fairly successful for WCW.
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I remember a sunday night heat where he had bearly turned heel. He got into it with Scotty 2 hotty and he was talking down on him with his new "what" schtick. It was funny as hell back then but I cant find it on youtube
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Old 06-03-2012, 11:42 PM   #23
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that's what you're looking for. Stone Cold invitational. Stone Cold pretends Scotty is Kurt Angle. It is funny.
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I remember when Taz confronted heel Austin after he beat up Michael Cole. Austin was calling out Booker T, and Taz just got into the ring and Austin turned around and was like "Unless Booker T got real short and real fat real fast, you're not Booker T" haha.
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and then later on HHH to become the Power Trip (probably the greatest tag team in history).
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It didn't shock me. Heel Austin was very entertaining, and they should've kept him like that for a bit longer.

His heel theme was awesome, too.
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Watching some heel Austin videos, I realise just how great a heel Austin was. I think that his actual turn, whilst shocking and somewhat exciting, did do damage to the business. A large part of that was that there were no real top faces to really stand up to Austin at that point in time. I personally feel that the Two-Man Power Trip was a bad idea, and that Triple H should have turned face to challenge Austin.
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Watching some heel Austin videos, I realise just how great a heel Austin was. I think that his actual turn, whilst shocking and somewhat exciting, did do damage to the business. A large part of that was that there were no real top faces to really stand up to Austin at that point in time. I personally feel that the Two-Man Power Trip was a bad idea, and that Triple H should have turned face to challenge Austin.
I disagree about the Two Man Power Trip being a bad idea, though I do the storyline reason they formed. Their feud with the Brothers of Destruction was, though short, intriguing.
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Go back and watch Austin's beating on Michael Cole and JR. He was great.
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I wish Taz in his prime could have fought Austin. I don't think Austin would be standing.
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The failure of his heel turn is probably a good reason why they will never do the same with John Cena.
He was cheered as a heel, that doesn't make his turn a failure. He became more interesting and he made others around him better (Angle, RVD)... Not Taz.

I like those kind of heel's, the one's who are so good at what they do, that you can't hate them, no matter how hard they try.
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Old 06-03-2012, 10:44 PM   #33
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The failure of his heel turn is probably a good reason why they will never do the same with John Cena.
Totally different situations. Austin was never getting half-booes/half-cheers in every arena in the country (including his home town) when he was a face. Cena has been in that place for years and years.

Austin's heel turn didn't mean losing "the guy." They had The Rock, who had proven himself to be just as big, if not a bigger draw than Austin. WWE does not have that guy right now.

At the time, WWE was not a publicly traded entity the way that it is now. They didn't have stock or shareholders to answer to. This was also pre-9/11 and pre-Benoit murders, so they didn't have to worry about being so sensitive and getting "good PR" by having their top guy (Austin) do publicity work like Make a Wish, Be A Star, etc. All he had to do was guest star on Walker: Texas Ranger.


These are the reasons they won't turn Cena heel. I highly doubt Austin's "failed heel turn" has ANYTHING to do with their decision to keep John face.
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Old 06-04-2012, 05:14 PM   #34
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Totally different situations. Austin was never getting half-booes/half-cheers in every arena in the country (including his home town) when he was a face. Cena has been in that place for years and years.

Austin's heel turn didn't mean losing "the guy." They had The Rock, who had proven himself to be just as big, if not a bigger draw than Austin. WWE does not have that guy right now.

At the time, WWE was not a publicly traded entity the way that it is now. They didn't have stock or shareholders to answer to. This was also pre-9/11 and pre-Benoit murders, so they didn't have to worry about being so sensitive and getting "good PR" by having their top guy (Austin) do publicity work like Make a Wish, Be A Star, etc. All he had to do was guest star on Walker: Texas Ranger.


These are the reasons they won't turn Cena heel. I highly doubt Austin's "failed heel turn" has ANYTHING to do with their decision to keep John face.
Wasn't Rock written out when the Two Man Power Trip formed so that he could go film The Mummy Returns?

They elevated Angle, RVD, Benoit, Jericho, etc. Which is what they would have to do today.
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The failure of his heel turn is probably a good reason why they will never do the same with John Cena.
I agree.
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They should have had Austin stunner vince the next night after he won the title.
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