Do away with Heels/Faces.

[Rob]

Originally Posted by Joey Radd Wrestling would be boring without Good Guys and bad guys. I hate to break it to you but its not about the wrestling anymore. Its about entertainment. Thats why so many fans say "Raw is better than smackdown" or "Smackdown sucked" it wasnt because of the wrestling its the story line. Good guy/ Bad Guy is what makes the show more entertaining is what makes it have some excitment.

Why do the segments involving in ring wrestling consistantly draw the highest ratings then? Who buys PPV's to see storylines?

Storylines are an important part of wrestling it's the matches that people pay to see. Simple as that.

[Joe Kerr]

Originally Posted by Rob Why do the segments involving in ring wrestling consistantly draw the highest ratings then? Who buys PPV's to see storylines? Storylines are an important part of wrestling it's the matches that people pay to see. Simple as that.

Did Your Order ...lets say Wrestlemania XX? If you did Why? for the great wrestling of the Undertaker? To see girls roll around on each other? To watch the Rock and Sock connection take on Evolution? Im sorry Rob but your wrong. Yes people enjoy seeing a good technical "wrestling" match But its the story that goes with it that we want. The Hype for takers return wasn't because he is a phenominal wrestler its his gimmick the excitment everyone got when they heard a *gong. Read back through the RAW threads leading up to his return and see how many posters Marked out. Take a look at the Legend killer story line and look at LC's post.

[ColdwaVer]

Originally Posted by Joey Radd Did Your Order ...lets say Wrestlemania XX? If you did Why? for the great wrestling of the Undertaker? To see girls roll around on each other? To watch the Rock and Sock connection take on Evolution? Im sorry Rob but your wrong. Yes people enjoy seeing a good technical "wrestling" match But its the story that goes with it that we want. The Hype for takers return wasn't because he is a phenominal wrestler its his gimmick the excitment everyone got when they heard a *gong. Read back through the RAW threads leading up to his return and see how many posters Marked out. Take a look at the Legend killer story line and look at LC's post.

Your missing his point. He's not talking about quality technical wrestling; people watch wrestling mainly for the "competition" that takes place in the ring, the actual physical interaction between those involved in the feud. Half the time WWE seems to be spending way too much time building the feud without actual match interaction, and the other half they seem to not put any time into it at all. Storylines climax in the ring, that's where they're supposed to be settled, therefore the most important part of any storyline takes place between the ringings of the bell. You can have wrestling matches without storylines, but storylines without matches are called soap operas.

[Joe Kerr]

Originally Posted by ColdwaVer Your missing his point. He's not talking about quality technical wrestling; people watch wrestling mainly for the "competition" that takes place in the ring, the actual physical interaction between those involved in the feud. Half the time WWE seems to be spending way too much time building the feud without actual match interaction, and the other half they seem to not put any time into it at all. Storylines climax in the ring, that's where they're supposed to be settled, therefore the most important part of any storyline takes place between the ringings of the bell. You can have wrestling matches without storylines, but storylines without matches are called soap operas.

Indeed but you cant have feuds without story lines. It would just be a booked match of two neutral characters in which you wouldnt know wether to Boo or cheer then again neither is face nor heel so why Boo or cheer? Basically it would be like watching a schools wrestling team go out and compete and your not for either school your just there to watch competition (also its not appropriate to boo at a wrestle meet)

[Rob]

Originally Posted by Joey Radd Did Your Order ...lets say Wrestlemania XX? If you did Why? for the great wrestling of the Undertaker? To see girls roll around on each other? To watch the Rock and Sock connection take on Evolution? Im sorry Rob but your wrong. Yes people enjoy seeing a good technical "wrestling" match But its the story that goes with it that we want. The Hype for takers return wasn't because he is a phenominal wrestler its his gimmick the excitment everyone got when they heard a *gong. Read back through the RAW threads leading up to his return and see how many posters Marked out. Take a look at the Legend killer story line and look at LC's post.

850,000 in the States bought Mania for the Undertaker's return? So it has nothing to do with seeing Benoit vs. HHH vs. Michaels, Guerrero vs. Angle, Christian vs. Jericho and Rock n'n Sock vs. Evolution?

That PPV had less storylines in it than most I can remember.

[Joe Kerr]

Originally Posted by Rob 850,000 in the States bought Mania for the Undertaker's return? So it has nothing to do with seeing Benoit vs. HHH vs. Michaels, Guerrero vs. Angle, Christian vs. Jericho and Rock n'n Sock vs. Evolution? That PPV had less storylines in it than most I can remember.

Christian Jericho was a match built on a storyline...the whole purpose of the match was to turn Trish heel. HHH vs. HBK with benoit on the side. The real match was to build the storyline of HHH and HBK's feud which is still going on. And yes the main reason alot of people bought the PPV was for the UNdertakers return. I order the PPV every month and for wrestlemania XX, 5 extra people came over just to see the Undertaker return. The point is you cant take the story lines out of wrestling and make everyone a face it will get stale and rtather boring.