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Old 06-11-2013, 05:41 PM   #361
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Yeah, but I'm lovable, so no one's gonna call out me.
It's more Rog will look for any excuse to bitch about me, but either way.
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:55 AM   #362
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The Don has addressed any consumers worried about internet connectivity issues.



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Old 06-12-2013, 10:17 AM   #363
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It's like they actively don't want gamers to buy the One.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:10 AM   #364
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This is why Dead Rising 3 looked shit:

http://www.destructoid.com/dead-risi...s-256136.phtml

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In a GameSpot report, Capcom demonstrated exactly how terminally bloody stupid the mainstream game industry truly is, confessing that Dead Rising 3 is planning to appeal to Call of Duty fans. Because of course, following the leader is exactly how you lead!

In a bid to, yes, "appeal to a wider audience," Dead Rising 3 has been given a brown color scheme, a serious tone, and a "realistic" approach. As if going down a checklist of bullshit PR phrases, Capcom also promises the violence will be "more visceral."

It would appear the publisher learned nothing from Resident Evil 6, a game that also ignored everything its series was founded on in a desperate, blind, pathetic attempt to grasp for an audience that was too busy playing Call of Duty to notice a poor attempting at aping Call of Duty. This is a lesson major publishers seem to refuse to accept, as they perpetuate the same cycle of failure they're been spinning on for the past few years.

As I'm always frigging saying, companies will shoot themselves in the foot if they keep insanely believing they can photocopy Call of Duty's success by scraping pitifully in its shadow. They need to start leading their own markets, rather than grab slices of a market already conquered.

But no, that requires too much thought. Better to just smash existing games with their own unique appeal, and reconstruct them into some bastard mutant that is everything and nothing at once.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:38 AM   #365
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This is why Dead Rising 3 looked shit:

http://www.destructoid.com/dead-risi...s-256136.phtml
Feels like this needs repeating:



(Plus, it'll give Team Gormless another reason to whine about me!)
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:50 AM   #366
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Why would I complain about that?
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:57 AM   #367
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It meets the criteria on your flowchart.
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:19 PM   #368
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It absolutely does not. Don't pretend to understand.
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:01 PM   #369
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It's a two step chart. It's not exactly difficult to follow.
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:14 PM   #370
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Dead Rising has always been about the bright colours and humour, I cant see anyone running around in some of the previous outfits in the third one.

Oh and that announcement about getting a 360 if you don't have the internet is the dumbest thing they could have said and certainly not going to help things.
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:15 PM   #371
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Which wouldn't happen unless you get the DLC anyway.
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:35 AM   #372
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The Don has addressed any consumers worried about internet connectivity issues.



Oh dear.
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It's like they actively don't want gamers to buy the One.

You may be on to something...


Also, unless it is based on another M$ decision, seems like GS is kinda being passive-aggressive about this particular machine... the preorder price is $100 instead of the usual $50 down for a new launching system. PS4 follows the standard $50 price point. Hm.
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You may be on to something...


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Also, unless it is based on another M$ decision, seems like GS is kinda being passive-aggressive about this particular machine... the preorder price is $100 instead of the usual $50 down for a new launching system. PS4 follows the standard $50 price point. Hm.
I have trouble believing this will be a bad thing for Gamestop. "Participating retailers" will almost certainly be them, and they're suich a force in the market they're almost certain to get a bigger and better deal.
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Old 06-17-2013, 10:39 AM   #374
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Just a side note, I really do wish Microsoft would get its shit together. Angry Jew did an interview with Major Nelson, and the Major was once again contradicting the talking points of other folks from Microsoft.

Given Larry's typical function as spokesman and promoter for the company, I'm inclined to believe his version of things is more accurate. But I don't know how accurate "more accurate" is, and it still indicates a core problem here: people who don't know what the fuck they're on about saying things they have no business saying.
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Old 06-19-2013, 02:10 PM   #375
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Old 06-19-2013, 03:26 PM   #376
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Thought that was the norm for most of E3.
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Old 06-19-2013, 03:35 PM   #377
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From what I've read about that situation, its mainly because those dev kits and games were being developed well before Windows 8 was available.

Microsoft didn't have the Windows 8 dev kits finished in time to make the switch be possible for their E3 plans. Those kits have the actual card and porting tools needed to finish development.
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Old 06-19-2013, 03:38 PM   #378
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You'd think they would be ahead of that.
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I was referring to the part where MS defended using Win 7 w/Nvidia GTX 780 (most likely) as a "comparable" kit to the XBOX One using an AMD APU with its ~7790 GPU. The GTX 700 series cards are waaaaaaaaaay more powerful than the AMD 7790.
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You'd think they would be ahead of that.

Maybe if Windows 8 was released earlier in 2012 and not around last October.

Between the time needed to create that major version of the dev kit and the time needed for porting as well as testing probably didn't leave enough time to guarantee all the projects would be ready for E3.
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Well they need to tighten the fuck up. They can't be a company that big trying to stuff crap down people's throats while secretly winging it behind the scenes. It's... unprofessional.
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Report: Microsoft To Drop Used Game Restrictions, Online Requirements

In what might be the most dramatic reversal in the gaming industry, Microsoft is reportedly changing course on many of the concerns related to the Xbox One. These include a 180 degree shift on used games and online requirements.

According to a report published on Giant Bomb, Microsoft will be dropping the 24-hour license renewal "check ins" we were told the system requires. Additionally, retail discs will be handled identically to what we experience now on the Xbox 360. This includes trading in and loaning to friends. An internet connection will only be required when setting up the console, and region locks will be disabled.

This news follows our interview with Microsoft Studios corporate vice president Phil Spencer, who assured us that Microsoft is listening to community feedback. We've reached out to the company for comment.
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Interesting...
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Interesting indeed. If they get rid of the check in's, current used game policies and the heavy reliance on Kinect, I may consider it. I'm still leaning towards the PS4 though.
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http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update



Last week at E3, the excitement, creativity and future of our industry was on display for a global audience.

For us, the future comes in the form of Xbox One, a system designed to be the best place to play games this year and for many years to come. As is our heritage with Xbox, we designed a system that could take full advantage of advances in technology in order to deliver a breakthrough in game play and entertainment. We imagined a new set of benefits such as easier roaming, family sharing, and new ways to try and buy games. We believe in the benefits of a connected, digital future.

Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your feedback. I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you for your assistance in helping us to reshape the future of Xbox One.

You told us how much you loved the flexibility you have today with games delivered on disc. The ability to lend, share, and resell these games at your discretion is of incredible importance to you. Also important to you is the freedom to play offline, for any length of time, anywhere in the world.

So, today I am announcing the following changes to Xbox One and how you can play, share, lend, and resell your games exactly as you do today on Xbox 360. Here is what that means:

  • An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.
  • Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today – There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360.
In addition to buying a disc from a retailer, you can also download games from Xbox Live on day of release. If you choose to download your games, you will be able to play them offline just like you do today. Xbox One games will be playable on any Xbox One console -- there will be no regional restrictions.


These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.


We appreciate your passion, support and willingness to challenge the assumptions of digital licensing and connectivity. While we believe that the majority of people will play games online and access the cloud for both games and entertainment, we will give consumers the choice of both physical and digital content. We have listened and we have heard loud and clear from your feedback that you want the best of both worlds.


Thank you again for your candid feedback. Our team remains committed to listening, taking feedback and delivering a great product for you later this year.
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Beautiful. That is a BIG deal.
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Big news, but too little too late.

Now just ditch the Kinect and drop the price, and you might convince me to buy one.
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:46 PM   #388
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The Xbox One is dead...


LONG LIVE THE XBOX 180
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:44 PM   #389
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Like Clockshot said, they need to drop the Kinect requirement and price. 100 bucks is a big deal still.
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Cmon, no rep for that Xbox 180 thing? I thought it was pretty clever...

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I'll give ya some Al, even though about a few thousand people beat ya to it on a bunch of other sites.
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It's a shame they were still telling us to fuck off just yesterday.
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I'm glad that they reversed course, but I think it's too little, too late.

At least, for me.

Though I won't outright refuse to get one.
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I'll give ya some Al, even though about a few thousand people beat ya to it on a bunch of other sites.
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I'm glad that they reversed course, but I think it's too little, too late.

I've heard this a few times now, and still dont get it.

The consoles arent even out yet, but some how it's "too little too late". Like you've somehow invested into the PS4.
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I've heard this a few times now, and still dont get it.

The consoles arent even out yet, but some how it's "too little too late". Like you've somehow invested into the PS4.
I'm not invested in the PS4, and that's not generally what people mean when they say "too little, too late." To the non-mouth breathers in the room, it refers to the damage done in terms of consumer confidence and the like.

In my case, I'm not exactly likely to reward people who were telling us to fuck off even as they were planning to backtrack.

Don't be that guy, dude. You're not that stupid.
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:53 PM   #397
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That doesn't make sense, KK. Shouldn't this kind of radical back-step instill confidence in consumers?

So what; Microsoft is hated for doing and then... not doing? It's no-win for them over restrictions nobody ever actually experienced (and never will)? And if gamers always had this 'one strike and you're out' mentality, how in the holy shit would they consider a Sony console after a pathetic PS3 launch and a historic month-long network outage?

Like Alva, I fail to see how this is consistent, and not just fanboys shifting the goal post. Perhaps a mouthbreather could explain it to me.
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Is this a Triad thing? Like you guys are taking an intentionally narrow view of statements to come up with the stupidest possible arguments?

Okay, then. Moving on.
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And yeah, it always was kind of a no-win deal once they went down that path. So what.
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LOL "So what"? Are you fucking serious right now?
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