MLB 2013 Thread

[The Condor]

Manager of the year should be changed to "Manager that made a shitty team surprisingly competitive award."

[Frank Drebin]

Originally Posted by Crazy Edgar Manager of the year should be changed to "Manager that made a shitty team surprisingly competitive award."

Manager of the year is more of a joke than the gold gloves. The criteria seems to simply be "Which team over performed the most" except in the odd cases like Dusty Baker where you must be a good manager when your team has the Cy Young winner (Jason Schmidt) and league MVP (Barry Bonds).

[The Condor]

Originally Posted by Frank Drebin Manager of the year is more of a joke than the gold gloves. The criteria seems to simply be "Which team over performed the most" except in the odd cases like Dusty Baker where you must be a good manager when your team has the Cy Young winner (Jason Schmidt) and league MVP (Barry Bonds).

Hate seeing the Torre's and Bobby Cox' of the world be overlooked continually for sustained excellence. In football Belichick is continually overlooked because every 3 years Marvin Lewis will "save his job" with a 9-7 record and get the award.

[parkmania]

Originally Posted by Crazy Edgar Hate seeing the Torre's and Bobby Cox' of the world be overlooked continually for sustained excellence. In football Belichick is continually overlooked because every 3 years Marvin Lewis will "save his job" with a 9-7 record and get the award.

I get what you're saying, but it's called "Manager of the YEAR", not "Lifetime Achievement Award".

[The Condor]

Originally Posted by parkmania I get what you're saying, but it's called "Manager of the YEAR", not "Lifetime Achievement Award".

Point taken, but I feel it's the easy way out to choose a Joe Girardi(Marlins)or Tony Pena(Royals) as MOtY. Because their teams weren't garbage they HAD to have the best managerial years? Sometimes, sure, it makes sense, but I feel most years it is a cop out.

[Damian Rey]

Originally Posted by Crazy Edgar Hate seeing the Torre's and Bobby Cox' of the world be overlooked continually for sustained excellence. In football Belichick is continually overlooked because every 3 years Marvin Lewis will "save his job" with a 9-7 record and get the award.

That "sustained excellence" has more to do with the teams their given to work with over what they actually bring to the table. Freddi Gonzalez seemingly has not had a problem "stepping in" to Cox's shoes and seeing success, much like Matheny stepping in for LaRussa, and Girardi for Torre.

Naming a Yankee manager Manager of the Year would be ridiculous 99% of the time. If they make the playoffs this year, I think there could be a strong argument made for Girardi considering the depleted roster he's had to run out there all year.

But naming a guy like Joe Torre, who walked into a winning situation with New York, and was given legitimately the best players in the game at the time, is ridiculous. There's not much for him to do other than write all of the studs on his roster into the lineup, and, more times than not, let them do their thing.

[The Condor]

Originally Posted by Damian Rey That "sustained excellence" has more to do with the teams their given to work with over what they actually bring to the table. Freddi Gonzalez seemingly has not had a problem "stepping in" to Cox's shoes and seeing success, much like Matheny stepping in for LaRussa, and Girardi for Torre. Naming a Yankee manager Manager of the Year would be ridiculous 99% of the time. If they make the playoffs this year, I think there could be a strong argument made for Girardi considering the depleted roster he's had to run out there all year. But naming a guy like Joe Torre, who walked into a winning situation with New York, and was given legitimately the best players in the game at the time, is ridiculous. There's not much for him to do other than write all of the studs on his roster into the lineup, and, more times than not, let them do their thing.

Spoken like a true, bitter Padres fan. Never forget '98