NFL 2013 Season Thread

[Krimzon7]

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan You're basically making the argument that QBs take great teams and make them championship teams and trying to claim that Peyton had great teams so that it fits your argument. And your way of showing that he had great teams was their record. Well I can just say "New England already had a championship team so Brady didn't make them a championship team." But I won't do that. Because I'm not trying to form an illogical argument around the decision I've already come to like you are, moron.

Well, I'm the moron because I don't agree with your point of view. I'm the moron because my argument consists of wins, losses, and Championships being used to separate great quarterbacks from the greatest quarterbacks.

I will not back off my stance. Your name calling and insults mean very little to me. The fact remains, that as his career is winding down, more and more people are starting to see in Peyton Manning what I've said all along.

[#1-norm-fan]

Originally Posted by Krimzon7 Well, I'm the moron because I don't agree with your point of view.

No. You're a moron because you can't understand logic and half the time you flat out lie and then deflect when you get called out on it.

And you deflect poorly at that. Kinda like you're trying to deflect from this lame argument you made every time I've called you on it.

You claim Peyton had a great team because they were 12-4 but couldn't win championships because Peyton didn't elevate them to it.

Fine. I'll claim that the Patriots were already a championship team during that 4 year period and Brady didn't elevate them.

I've got perennial 11 win seasons with a 2-14 season for Indy without Peyton and perennial 11 win seasons with another 11 win season without Brady for New England to show that Peyton VASTLY improved his team and Brady didn't.

You have "Super bowl rings" because that's the simplest thing you can wrap your head around when it comes to judging a single player in a team sport.

[Krimzon7]

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan No. You're a moron because you can't understand logic and half the time you flat out lie and then deflect when you get called out on it. And you deflect poorly at that. Kinda like you're trying to deflect from this lame argument you made every time I've called you on it. You claim Peyton had a great team because they were 12-4 but couldn't win championships because Peyton didn't elevate them to it. Fine. I'll claim that the Patriots were already a championship team during that 4 year period and Brady didn't elevate them. I've got perennial 11 win seasons with a 2-14 season for Indy without Peyton and perennial 11 win seasons with another 11 win season without Brady for New England to show that Peyton VASTLY improved his team and Brady didn't. You have "Super bowl rings" because that's the simplest thing you can wrap your head around when it comes to judging a single player in a team sport.

So let's just end this once and for all. Superbowl Titles means more to me. Stats means more to you. When I am talking about the best, fuck records, fuck statsistics. I only give a fuck about championships, because that is what will stand the test of time. Every record can and will be broken. make any argument about teams, and wins and losses that you want.

Call me when Peyton wins another title.

[#1-norm-fan]

So there you go.

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan You have "Super bowl rings" because that's the simplest thing you can wrap your head around when it comes to judging a single player in a team sport.

Thanks for the confirmation.

[Krimzon7]

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan So there you go. Thanks for the confirmation.

You twat, I said it earlier. Just because you don't comprehend how that is such a defining statistic is more a damming observation of your lack of understanding of the game than anything else.

[#1-norm-fan]

Originally Posted by Krimzon7 You twat, I said it earlier. Just because you don't comprehend how that is such a defining statistic is more a damming observation of your lack of understanding of the game than anything else.

Yes. I'm able to grasp more than the concept of team championships when it comes to individual skill. As anyone with half a brain should be able to do.

[Bad News Gertner]

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan No. You're a moron because you can't understand logic and half the time you flat out lie and then deflect when you get called out on it. And you deflect poorly at that. Kinda like you're trying to deflect from this lame argument you made every time I've called you on it. You claim Peyton had a great team because they were 12-4 but couldn't win championships because Peyton didn't elevate them to it. Fine. I'll claim that the Patriots were already a championship team during that 4 year period and Brady didn't elevate them. I've got perennial 11 win seasons with a 2-14 season for Indy without Peyton and perennial 11 win seasons with another 11 win season without Brady for New England to show that Peyton VASTLY improved his team and Brady didn't. You have "Super bowl rings" because that's the simplest thing you can wrap your head around when it comes to judging a single player in a team sport.

The Pats wouldn't have three Super Bowl rings with Drew Bledsoe. The Colts also went 2-14 with Curtis Painter and Dan Orlovsky. Matt Cassel isn't the greatest, but he's 10x better than those two. The Colts also had half their team on the IR before the bye week. Peyton wouldn't have taken that team to the playoffs if he played. Nobody could have.