DEBATE: Is it possible for guys like Jericho, RVD, Kane, etc. to still draw as ME's?

**Wildcat789** · 07-05-2004, 03:52 PM

LC, nobody will ever go over Taker cleanly. He is made to be the strongest and most over guy on smackdown. Yeah, RVD is over, but Taker can't even be heel without getting a huge pop.

It's hard to pick an argument here. Some superstars will be way over with the crowd, no matter how buried they may be. Take Jericho as an example. The fans are crazy for him, he is a great worker (possibly the best in the WWE today), and has great charisma.

RVD, however, is extremely stale. On top of that, he sounds like a friggin hippie on the mic. His ring skills are only average, and every match with his 'unorthodox style' could be read off on a checklist.

Point I'm trying to make? A character can still draw if the ring work is good, he can get the fans going while he's on the mic, and maybe if he comes off a good feud with somebody worthwhile. If I had to pick, I'd say argument #2 because I feel some wrestlers can draw after being buried, but I still think that some can not.

**The CyNick** · 07-05-2004, 03:56 PM

Keep in mind, there is a huge difference between being able to pop a crowd and being able to draw fans to an arena. I think a guy like Jericho or RVD will always be able to get a pop, but I think their characters have been killed, and its very unlikely they ever be able to draw.

07-05-2004, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat789

LC, nobody will ever go over Taker cleanly. He is made to be the strongest and most over guy on smackdown. Yeah, RVD is over, but Taker can't even be heel without getting a huge pop.

That's the thing though, we're not turning Taker heel, we're turning RVD. You give RVD his arrogant gimmick he had in ECW and you give him a clean win over Taker, he can say how he just beat the Phenom cleanly and he didn't even break a sweat. You know, some shit like that. Remember when Michaels was babyface and he gave the chairshot to Taker at Summerslam and then he gave a cocky/jackass interview the night after? The fans turned on him quick and they wanted to see Michaels get his ass beat. That's exactly where they need to go with RVD IMO.

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07-05-2004, 03:52 PM	#1
Wildcat789 Screw Boston. CHEATERS! Posts: 264	LC, nobody will ever go over Taker cleanly. He is made to be the strongest and most over guy on smackdown. Yeah, RVD is over, but Taker can't even be heel without getting a huge pop. It's hard to pick an argument here. Some superstars will be way over with the crowd, no matter how buried they may be. Take Jericho as an example. The fans are crazy for him, he is a great worker (possibly the best in the WWE today), and has great charisma. RVD, however, is extremely stale. On top of that, he sounds like a friggin hippie on the mic. His ring skills are only average, and every match with his 'unorthodox style' could be read off on a checklist. Point I'm trying to make? A character can still draw if the ring work is good, he can get the fans going while he's on the mic, and maybe if he comes off a good feud with somebody worthwhile. If I had to pick, I'd say argument #2 because I feel some wrestlers can draw after being buried, but I still think that some can not.

07-05-2004, 03:56 PM	#2
The CyNick Make the IWC Great Again Posts: 8,922	Keep in mind, there is a huge difference between being able to pop a crowd and being able to draw fans to an arena. I think a guy like Jericho or RVD will always be able to get a pop, but I think their characters have been killed, and its very unlikely they ever be able to draw.