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Old 07-24-2014, 12:03 PM   #1
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Apply that to any other sport and you see how ridiculous that sounds. If 1st place in a motor race said 2nd place shouldn't be allowed to race because his cars too fast. The fact the person calling it unfair just beat the person in question proves that it is fair.
this is retarded. like i understand that this topic is very personal to you, but this comparison is retarded. car racing depends on money to produce/maintain vehicles. that can be changed and fluctuate.

she definitely has an advantage, biologically. that isn't going to change. sure she lost, probably because she lacks skill, but it doesn't change the fact that she has the advantage. she just doesn't take advantage of it.

she will never be in the UFC and will forever be a 'sideshow', which sounds kinda shitty, but is true.
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Old 07-24-2014, 01:01 PM   #2
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"She" was a grown man when she made the change. 20+ years of natural testosterone cant be reverse with a few years of hormone treatment. She shouldn't be allowed to fight females IMO.
Being on hormones and being post-op, she would be equal to the other female competitors in terms of strength because her testosterone level and muscle mass aren't equal to that of a man.
Testosterone comes from the balls, ovaries and adrenal glands. Fox hasn't got male genitals or ovaries. She'd actually have less testosterone than her opponents.

If you ever type about a trans female in the future, it's probably best to leave out the quotes. It can come across as insensitive.

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this is retarded. like i understand that this topic is very personal to you, but this comparison is retarded. car racing depends on money to produce/maintain vehicles. that can be changed and fluctuate.

she definitely has an advantage, biologically. that isn't going to change. sure she lost, probably because she lacks skill, but it doesn't change the fact that she has the advantage. she just doesn't take advantage of it.

she will never be in the UFC and will forever be a 'sideshow', which sounds kinda shitty, but is true.
I was trying to think of something where there are classes of competition. Limits to how big/small, fast/slow etc you could be for fair competition. All I could think of at the time was racing.

Being as unfamiliar with MMA as I am, I assumed she was involved with UFC because I don't know of any other company that televises MMA.

You're probably right about the "sideshow" thing, which sucks. People should probably get over the "OMG, trans!" thing, though. Trans people have been around throughout history and are no more uncommon or unusual than any other strand of society.
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