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Old 02-11-2015, 07:56 PM   #1
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I would have no problems with Andre being listed as a '5', but would you really put him on the same level as Hogan, Austin, and The Rock? I figured he'd be closer to Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels in terms of his legacy.
Without a doubt yes. Andre didn't win many titles because he didn't have to. Also, it would mean that someone would have had to defeat Andre. He was unquestionably the biggest draw of the 70's/early 80's. Vince Sr would lend him out to other territories to bring in other big stars like Dusty Rhodes, Harley Race etc....
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Without a doubt yes. Andre didn't win many titles because he didn't have to. Also, it would mean that someone would have had to defeat Andre. He was unquestionably the biggest draw of the 70's/early 80's. Vince Sr would lend him out to other territories to bring in other big stars like Dusty Rhodes, Harley Race etc....

To be honest, I do think a legit case can be made for Andre The Giant being "on the same level" as Austin, Rock, and Hogan.


I'm just not really sure if Andre really "revolutionized" wrestling however (although I could be wrong).


Hulk Hogan was the guy that made wrestling cool and brought in new legions of fans. Austin was the guy that made wrestling cool again........and brought in new legions of fans. The Rock continued Austin's momentum when Austin got injured in 1999.


Hogan and The Rock became massive stars outside of the WWE as well, and became legit celebrities outside of the wrestling world.


I just don't know if Andre the Giant is in that category, but again, I'd have no problems with him being listed as a '5'.


As #1wwf-fan pointed out, Andre is a lot closer to Hogan/Austin/Rock level than he is Bret/Shawn/Taker. Maybe Andre is a 4.85?
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To be honest, I do think a legit case can be made for Andre The Giant being "on the same level" as Austin, Rock, and Hogan.


I'm just not really sure if Andre really "revolutionized" wrestling however (although I could be wrong).


Hulk Hogan was the guy that made wrestling cool and brought in new legions of fans. Austin was the guy that made wrestling cool again........and brought in new legions of fans. The Rock continued Austin's momentum when Austin got injured in 1999.


Hogan and The Rock became massive stars outside of the WWE as well, and became legit celebrities outside of the wrestling world.


I just don't know if Andre the Giant is in that category, but again, I'd have no problems with him being listed as a '5'.


As #1wwf-fan pointed out, Andre is a lot closer to Hogan/Austin/Rock level than he is Bret/Shawn/Taker. Maybe Andre is a 4.85?
Andre did become a big star outside of wrestling. He was THE attraction. I'd venture to guess that the average person knew who Andre the Giant was, especially if you were born before 1990. He was on Johnny Carson, David Letterman, etc... he had the Princess Bride which pretty much everyone saw, he travelled the world and sold out arenas everywhere. Wrestlemania 3 wouldn't have been such a success if it weren't for Andre. He was adored by fans. That's what made his heel turn so amazing.
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Andre did become a big star outside of wrestling. He was THE attraction. I'd venture to guess that the average person knew who Andre the Giant was, especially if you were born in the before 1990. He was on Johnny Carson, David Letterman, etc... he had the Princess Bride which pretty much everyone saw, he travelled the world and sold out arenas everywhere. Wrestlemania 3 wouldn't have been such a success if it weren't for Andre. He was adored by fans. That's what made his heel turn so amazing.


Hmmmmm.............


Based on that description, I guess I would put Andre at a 5.0; as I'm sure most wrestling experts would as well.
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